Well, I think it's pretty clear how we all feel about this band.
We love them, yet we hate Kisaki because he is only hungry for money.
Like today my copy of Kami uta arrived in the mail. The packaing was pretty big just for a one song single. I mean couldn't have Kisaki toned it down? I think it's just his way of him saying "LOL LOOK HOW MUSH $$$$ I CAN SPEND THX 2 U FUCKERZ!!!"
Discuss.
no hate.
only love!
lol yup pretty much that i like mago (i wouldn't say love but i do like them) and i do want to smack kisaki around a bit ...yup ...but w.e yea i like quite a few of their songs i used to like them more awhile ago now it's cooled down a bit but yea i still likes them me thinks
kisaki's a bigger tool than the fall out boys.
cheers to Jun's future. good try Iori.
This is not flame pit. Get out.
I already have the "phantasmagoria disbanding" thread in the flame pit.
This is meant for a Mago discussion. I didn't say I hate them.
neither did i.
i simply put out straight facts. not even the "serious music discussion" section can save ol' crooked tooth.
Quote from: lovetrick on July 21, 2007, 02:32:08 AM
This is not flame pit. Get out.
and as for you, if you cant take a little joke on one of your musical heros once in a while, then you need to take some big steps away from the interwebs.
^ :D
Quote from: 4skin, on July 21, 2007, 02:56:06 AM
Quote from: lovetrick on July 21, 2007, 02:32:08 AM
This is not flame pit. Get out.
and as for you, if you cant take a little joke on one of your musical heros once in a while, then you need to take some big steps away from the interwebs.
I can take a joke when I know the intentions.
I'm not that big on them, but I agree that Kisaki is definitely over-whoring things a bit too much.
^ I agree except that I do really like Phantasmagoria. Too bad Kisaki is so money hungry. I was really tempted to buy all their perfumes they put out; but so far I like Asagi's perfume so I buy that :P
^Good move.
Asagi is x999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999x999999999999 better than Kisaki. ;D
I just finished watching the music video for Kami uta.
Oh my goodness. It's so cheesetastic.
I thought it was kind of fitting for Kisaki to come off a space ship. :-X
Phantasmagoria 'was' a great band in the beginning.
But now it's pretty obvious that Kisaki's only there to make money with previous song releases.
Like this 'new version' of Kamiuta, god i love this song but bahhh, it's almost the same. :-\
But i like the idea of the PV:
It's the end of the world, so let's pray to God so that he can save us.
Wiii, there he comes, it's God, it's coming down the spaceship.. it's The Kisaki.
Too bad that he works for money now, he was such a great musician.
Just my opinion. ;D
Yah I can understand some rereleases and different versions of things if there is something cool to be offered. Like D rereleased their stuff but it was all rerecorded with the new bassist; so that was cool. I remember DBSK put out A-D versions of their last korean album. I got the D version; came in a really nice box with the album; DVD with like 7 music videos and like 10 comments and a making of the video; and 30 cards as a surprise gift; that was awesome. But Phantasmagoria takes that to a whole new and obviously greedy level. And I don't blame the whole band because I think its Kisaki that's in charge of all that.
Now the perfume idea was really cool I thought. I like collecting perfumes; so some jrock perfume would've been sweet. But the only way to get all the perfumes was to buy their single 5 times; that was a ridiculous. What they should've done was release the perfumes over a series of singles so that if you bought their last 5 singles with the perfume; then you eventually got all 5 perfumes. That would've been a better idea and easier on the fans.
lol the PV sounds hilarious i haven't watched it ...i shall now though
EDIT_ oh my... that was hilarious xD ....oh my
Yes, but I couldn't take the music video seriously. xD
Was it ever meant to be taken seriously? I mean come on, Kisaki, in a space ship.
:D
haha yea from the first shot... i think i started to busted a gut at least they left with a funny PV xD i think i like that more then it being all serious bizness
I was honestly waiting for him to fall down the stairs. wahaha
Only thing I hate about it, is the redundant lyrics.
:'(
Love you anyway Riku!
instead of doing a remake of kami uta they could've done something new to end out on ....but the pv makes up for it at least (and omg if kisaki fell down those stairs i would've just fallen out of my sit and died in a fit of uncontrollable laughter)
haha, I was seriously sitting there like:
"Come on... come on~... come onnn... Damn it! he didn't fall" :D
I wonder what they'll do after September.
A lot of people doubt Kisaki will really retire, but I don't know.
Who do you think will be the most successful after the break?
I heard something about some other band they were going to do after this, but I don't know if there was any truth to that.
I think Riku will be, but it's really anyones game since they are all really talented.
So sad to hear Matoi is retiring due to his hearing and stuff. :'(
i was really skeptical about kisaki's retiring at first but i think hes really done...
oh I've never heard about the other band thing but I'm thinking Jun will be the most successful but like you said it's really anyone's game and i hope they all do well afterwards ^^;...and i agree about matoi meh >.<
He'll probably come back to the scene when he his off of probabtion.
In four years...
Quote from: パニック姫 on July 21, 2007, 08:13:26 PM
I was honestly waiting for him to fall down the stairs. wahaha
Only thing I hate about it, is the redundant lyrics.
:'(
The lyrics are redundant for a reason -- it's mainly meant to be a live rush song, played at the end of a gig to wear everyone out and have tons of fun. But yeah, I can see it being a bit annoying when you're just sitting and listening to a song. I didn't like how I could barely hear Riku's little speaking parts. I much prefer the original.
And if Kisaki had tripped, I would've died laughing. ...and then later made an animated gif out of it. XD
And uhm.. Matoi doesn't have a hearing problem. Where did that come from? Last I heard what he had was a back problem that affected his legs and thus, his drumming. o_O
Quote from: wtfuxeric on July 21, 2007, 01:52:13 AM
Well, I think it's pretty clear how we all feel about this band.
We love them, yet we hate Kisaki because he is only hungry for money
are you talking about some certain people or just in general, like you know, everybody drinks cola?
because actually I do like KISAKI, even a lot!
^LOL!
Quote from: Primo_Levi on August 14, 2007, 12:15:05 AM
are you talking about some certain people or just in general, like you know, everybody drinks cola?
because actually I do like KISAKI, even a lot!
LOL XD
i'm not a huge Kisaki fan but i do agree with you.
dont everyone work for money?
Watch out everybody! KISAKI has launched a sneak attack!
Crystal Finale Live DVD at Shibuya AX and somehow, he's managed to wrangle all the members of UCP to forcibly give him a "Tribute" album!
Quote from: Alphonse on August 22, 2007, 04:10:20 AM
he's managed to wrangle all the members of UCP to forcibly give him a "Tribute" album!
Cause of course, they totally couldn't have
wanted to do it for a band and musician they respect. ::)
They're not all members of UCP, either. Anjyu', Bergerac, and DOREMIdan are not on UCP.
Quote from: 37564 on August 22, 2007, 04:16:30 AM
Quote from: Alphonse on August 22, 2007, 04:10:20 AM
he's managed to wrangle all the members of UCP to forcibly give him a "Tribute" album!
Cause of course, they totally couldn't have wanted to do it for a band and musician they respect. ::)
They're not all members of UCP, either. Anjyu', Bergerac, and DOREMIdan are not on UCP.
Call me crazy, but Alphonse MAY have been sarcastic. Imagine that, sarcasm on an internet forum!
I cant wait to hear キボウ屋本舗「Pixy false」 and Anjyu'「Suicide Gemini」 those are prolly gonna be full of lulz.
Quote from: Tsunetako on August 22, 2007, 04:21:27 AM
Quote from: 37564 on August 22, 2007, 04:16:30 AM
Quote from: Alphonse on August 22, 2007, 04:10:20 AM
he's managed to wrangle all the members of UCP to forcibly give him a "Tribute" album!
Cause of course, they totally couldn't have wanted to do it for a band and musician they respect. ::)
They're not all members of UCP, either. Anjyu', Bergerac, and DOREMIdan are not on UCP.
Call me crazy, but Alphonse MAY have been sarcastic. Imagine that, sarcasm on an internet forum!
It just sounded like the typical anti-Kisaki bullshit to me. -shrug-
As for the tribute, I'm curious to hear it.. but I honestly don't expect most of the songs to sound that good, since mago's a completely different style from the way most of those vocalists sing, especially Kibouya Honpo. It'll be.. interesting at least.
Well, Alphonse has proved my point. ;D
But I still might end up buying this stuff because I still love Phantasmagoria to death even though Kisaki is a money hungry basTARD.
Man, I am going to be broke for MONTHS. xD
Quote from: wtfuxeric on August 22, 2007, 06:20:51 AM
Man, I am going to be broke for MONTHS. xD
Such a honey for Kisama's ears.
I'd like to hear some of the UCP/other people's takes on some of Phantasmagoria's songs. Anything to get the Riku out of there.
Also, turns out there's two Phantasmagoria DVDs. Somehow, the Crystal Finale DVD is going to be 200 minutes long. Sounds like KISAKI actually decided to give us a good DVD! I rarely say this, but good job KISAKI.
Quote from: Alphonse on August 23, 2007, 02:55:32 AM
I'd like to hear some of the UCP/other people's takes on some of Phantasmagoria's songs. Anything to get the Riku out of there.
Also, turns out there's two Phantasmagoria DVDs. Somehow, the Crystal Finale DVD is going to be 200 minutes long. Sounds like KISAKI actually decided to give us a good DVD! I rarely say this, but good job KISAKI.
Yeah
all the 15 year old carreer is slashed by one full value DVD
shame on Kisaki, he should produce 10 PV DVD with only makings on each.
I got an e-mail today from CDjapan saying that there is two new things?
Like a DVD with rare UCP concert footage?
QuotePhantasmagoria's No Imagination compilation is set for release on October 31st. The album is said to be a image soundtrack from the band's tours and will be available as a limited pressing. It will include a DVD with footage from many of Phantasmagoria's concerts.
I really had to try hard not to make a joke here, I really did. I mean, look at the name! Anyway, it seems KISAKI realized he needs to make up for all that horrid junk he's done in the past and is trying to quickly patch things up. We're getting a Digest DVD and an "Image Soundtrack" which I assume means "The music they played before each concert"
Anyone interested in this?
^I am.
LOL, I'm just a crazy fan and I want to get my hands on all of tihs Limited pressing merchandise.
I just don't get why it's always Limited. :/ Does Kisaki not want to make as much money as we think?
Nevertheless, I will be spending almost $400 on all this last minute Phantasmagoria stuff.
Oh, and yes, I am crazy. ;D
T_T i preordered Requiem -funeral edition-... but there's like...O_O
幻影美人間~特別夜~2007.1.27 川崎CLUB CITTA、
REINCARNATION~幻影像完全盤~
REQUIEM~FUNERAL EDITION~
REQUIEM~FLORAL EDITION~
Tribute to Phantasmagoria
-ECLIPSE OF MYTH- 2007.8.31 大阪国際交流センター
-CRYSTAL FINALE- 2007.8.27 東京 SHIBUYA-AX
aaaand
No Imagination [CD+DVD].....
I mean... for a band who've split up... y'know they're really quite active (or Kisaki at least is) at releasing this stuff... O_O... I mean even the A-B Requiem, (like... type a, b and c or whatever) he couldn't just lump it all together, I'm pretty sure Funeral and Floral editions have different tracklists >.<xxx
Quote from: wtfuxeric on August 28, 2007, 04:20:52 PM
^I am.
LOL, I'm just a crazy fan and I want to get my hands on all of tihs Limited pressing merchandise.
I just don't get why it's always Limited. :/ Does Kisaki not want to make as much money as we think?
Nevertheless, I will be spending almost $400 on all this last minute Phantasmagoria stuff.
Oh, and yes, I am crazy. ;D
I think that's why he does it, the limited pressings i mean, so that you do buy it and quickly... sorta like a guaranteed sellout XDDD and guaranteed returns
guaranteed profit
I'm just surprised that most of these releases come out on the same day, the two concert DVDs for Crystal Finale and Eclipse of Myth and the Image DVD No Imagination all come out on Halloween for example.
Quote from: nijuu_rasen on August 28, 2007, 04:37:22 PM
T_T i preordered Requiem -funeral edition-... but there's like...O_O
幻影美人間~特別夜~2007.1.27 川崎CLUB CITTA、
REINCARNATION~幻影像完全盤~
REQUIEM~FUNERAL EDITION~
REQUIEM~FLORAL EDITION~
Tribute to Phantasmagoria
-ECLIPSE OF MYTH- 2007.8.31 大阪国際交流センター
-CRYSTAL FINALE- 2007.8.27 東京 SHIBUYA-AX
aaaand
No Imagination [CD+DVD].....
I mean... for a band who've split up... y'know they're really quite active (or Kisaki at least is) at releasing this stuff... O_O... I mean even the A-B Requiem, (like... type a, b and c or whatever) he couldn't just lump it all together, I'm pretty sure Funeral and Floral editions have different tracklists >.<xxx
lol that is sooo true xD
btw you're signature is mesmerizing
haha cheers XDD, i'll post the video when it finally uploads ¬_¬ XDDD LuLu's 精神鎮痛剤 PV (たぁ~ is the member with purple hair)
rawr! i see it in the download section! *runs to download*
Holy christ, this man is putting out more material in his "retirement" then he did during his actual work!
「KISAKI(Phantasmagoria)-FINAL SOLO WORKS-/memory of tears〜忘却の落陽に映る情景〜」
Four tracks, Jui on Vocals. Some sort of pre-order bonus on Brand-X. You know the drill people.
If KISAKI put this much effort into his actual bands, he'd probably be Major by now and Phantasmagoria would be still running.
Man this man lost it.
There is even something going on, if 3000 people mail him the band will have a reunion next year for 1 day. And I guess he will release shitload of dvd/cds around that time too.
Money hungry....
The 3000 mails things is the live houses' doing, not Kisaki's or the band's doing. :/
Quote from: 37564 on September 02, 2007, 08:44:01 AM
The 3000 mails things is the live houses' doing, not Kisaki's or the band's doing. :/
Blabla And I am sure the 14 memorial releases isn't his doing too.
Kisaki is just a angel who doesnt get a penny out of it.
LAWL.
Quote from: GEWALT on September 02, 2007, 08:31:36 AM
There is even something going on, if 3000 people mail him the band will have a reunion next year for 1 day. And I guess he will release shitload of dvd/cds around that time too.
To quote Riku: "
Jezus Ach Chwist!"
Is that true? Really? That sort of just diminishes the whole break-up deal we've got going on. Why can't other bands do something like this instead? Hell, I'd gladly write and mail 3000 letters myself to Mana if it meant him getting off his ass and calling Gackt up for 1 night.
That would be worth getting 14 memorial releases for.
Oh well, in a better light, this means more opportunities for JUN.
Quote from: GEWALT on September 02, 2007, 08:51:18 AM
Quote from: 37564 on September 02, 2007, 08:44:01 AM
The 3000 mails things is the live houses' doing, not Kisaki's or the band's doing. :/
Blabla And I am sure the 14 memorial releases isn't his doing too.
Kisaki is just a angel who doesnt get a penny out of it.
LAWL.
The 3000 emails ISN'T his doing. ID-Japan is heading that--a few of us emailed them to make sure it wasn't a scam.
Besides, the flier doesn't even SAY that they will do a revival live. It says that *IF* 3000 emails are received, the appropriate parties (in this case, ID-Japan) will take Kisaki and the band into a meeting to try and negotiate a potential revival live. It does NOT guarantee one, PERIOD.
Kisaki mentioned that he had some people approach him about a revival live and he said he had no interest.
So LAWL LAWL LOLLERCOASTER ROTFLMFAO @ YOU. :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: nadzuki on September 13, 2007, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: GEWALT on September 02, 2007, 08:51:18 AM
Quote from: 37564 on September 02, 2007, 08:44:01 AM
The 3000 mails things is the live houses' doing, not Kisaki's or the band's doing. :/
Blabla And I am sure the 14 memorial releases isn't his doing too.
Kisaki is just a angel who doesnt get a penny out of it.
LAWL.
The 3000 emails ISN'T his doing. ID-Japan is heading that--a few of us emailed them to make sure it wasn't a scam.
Besides, the flier doesn't even SAY that they will do a revival live. It says that *IF* 3000 emails are received, the appropriate parties (in this case, ID-Japan) will take Kisaki and the band into a meeting to try and negotiate a potential revival live. It does NOT guarantee one, PERIOD.
Kisaki mentioned that he had some people approach him about a revival live and he said he had no interest.
So LAWL LAWL LOLLERCOASTER ROTFLMFAO @ YOU. :D :D :D :D :D :D
Right.
I bet a revival will come.
I don't get this " OMG PROTECT KISAKI BECAUZEEEE HE IS THE BESTEST"
He is:
- criminal
- money hungry
- producing same shit over and over.
Don't get me wrong I used to like his work and Phantasmagoria. But at some point he started to suck bad and following his money hungry penis.
"Right."
You're wrong, get over it. :D
I don't get all this OH EM EFF GEE BASH KIZAKI BECUZ HE BAD BOI
If you don't respect him and you don't like the band, why don't you ignore them? I hate Dir en grey. They're money-hungry, I think their music blows, and I think they're a bunch of jerks but I don't go into the Dir thread and bitch and moan about them. Grow up. ::)
PS: Phantasmagoria were a "live band" but I wouldn't expect you to know something like that.
PPS: Criminal? Pot meet kettle, illegal music downloader.
hoorah! yet another tonberry battle x_x
I always found the very concept of a "live band" to be bullshit. To be a truly great artist you have to be great on CD AND during concerts.
Quote from: GEWALT on September 13, 2007, 10:58:20 PM
I don't get this " OMG PROTECT KISAKI BECAUZEEEE HE IS THE BESTEST"
It has nothing to do with that. You're spouting bullshit so of course people will correct you. I tried to correct you, but you just acted like an idiot in response. If you're going to bitch about something, at least bitch about something that's actually correct. e_e That's like bitching about Kisaki going to jail when he never did.
Overall, the whole bashing of Kisaki shit is just plain old and annoying.
And the whole OMG HES A CRIMINAL HES EVIIIIIL bit makes me lol. God forbid a human make a stupid, human-like fuck up. At least he actually dealt with it like a responsible adult, which is more than I can say for most people.
Quote from: 37564 on September 14, 2007, 03:40:51 AM
Quote from: GEWALT on September 13, 2007, 10:58:20 PM
I don't get this " OMG PROTECT KISAKI BECAUZEEEE HE IS THE BESTEST"
It has nothing to do with that. You're spouting bullshit so of course people will correct you. I tried to correct you, but you just acted like an idiot in response. If you're going to bitch about something, at least bitch about something that's actually correct. e_e That's like bitching about Kisaki going to jail when he never did.
Overall, the whole bashing of Kisaki shit is just plain old and annoying.
And the whole OMG HES A CRIMINAL HES EVIIIIIL bit makes me lol. God forbid a human make a stupid, human-like fuck up. At least he actually dealt with it like a responsible adult, which is more than I can say for most people.
A little mistake? Hell he knew exactly what he was doing. So serves him right.
CRIMINAL.
@ nadzuki: LOL liveband. SO they can suck on cd as long their life is "fun"?
LOL I smell a horny fangirl there.
And another thing. This is a fucking discussion topic. So don't go all like " ONLY GOOD STUFF ABOUT KIZEKKII".
Fuck even Big Kisaki fans admit that he screwed up Phantasmagoria with all the re-re-re-release shit.
I think some bands are allowed to suck in recordings and not live, like KISS.
KISS' records suck ass, but their live album "KISS Alive!" was pretty awesome.
Well I find that Mago suck both recorded - just as they play shit, live - just as they play bad-tuned shit with annoying keyboard parts - and their "choreography" (ok let's call on-stage movements) is all the same for years, especially vocalists hand shake that looks like he smells so shity so has to scare away flies
not to mention Kisama is a reall faggot when filmed - he moves like relanium-affected and I just can't stand his shoulders - too much travesty
Kisaki should come back with a new band called 'Kisaki Bass Project'.
I'm sure he will.
It's new week started and we heard no mago-tributal news.
Kisaki is going to pull a Jay-Z.
He says he is retiring, but he will be back and with a new band that will release a one song single called "Business of the Unfinished Sanctuary"(because we all know those cheesy phrases he likes to use).
Oh, and the single will cost the same as an album because we all know how he is. :l
Quote from: wtfuxeric on November 03, 2007, 07:11:39 AM
Kisaki is going to pull a Jay-Z.
He says he is retiring, but he will be back and with a new band that will release a one song single called "Business of the Unfinished Sanctuary"(because we all know those cheesy phrases he likes to use).
Oh, and the single will cost the same as an album because we all know how he is. :l
really! xD
Oh, and that said single will have all this bonus content that has already been released.
[The crystal finale DVD came with a Phantasmaogira history booklet. LOL]
could someone post any of Kisaki's few pics here?
(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4901/kisajf4.jpg)
Google makes it.
Argghh!!! It's two weeks gone and no Phantasmagoria-tributal CD's out :(((
Quote from: kachida on November 19, 2007, 03:46:39 AM
could someone post any of Kisaki's few pics here?
...few? There's like a million pictures of Kisaki out there. D:
on hiatus i think. poor kisaki..
So is Phantasmagoria through yet? What left do they have to release?
Does anyone know what Iori is doing?
Dead shit still hasn't got too rotten:
(http://i12.tinypic.com/7y72new.jpg)
I hope they will give free respirators in the hall.
God damnit
kisuckee
WTF
D:
Happy new year from Kisuckee:
Also, announced far in advance, Phantasmagoria will hold a one night revival, "forbidden -INSANITY of the UNDERWORLD-", on August 31st.
Quote from: nekki_chibi on December 31, 2007, 05:25:57 PM
Happy new year from Kisuckee:
Also, announced far in advance, Phantasmagoria will hold a one night revival, "forbidden -INSANITY of the UNDERWORLD-", on August 31st.
And you can't buy tickets. If you want a ticket for it. You have to buy the Kisaki memorial book and there is some coupon in it. You have to send that and 4000 yen to get a ticket. 1 book = 1 ticket. Japan only! And because the books were already sold out. A reprint.
I am not joking.
I'm now taking donations for the "Send Alphonse to UCP shows to kick KISAKI in the balls" foundation.
Damn, I'd certainly donate if I hadn't quit my job a week ago. :P
Are you fucking kidding me?
Quote from: GEWALT on December 31, 2007, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: nekki_chibi on December 31, 2007, 05:25:57 PM
Happy new year from Kisuckee:
Also, announced far in advance, Phantasmagoria will hold a one night revival, "forbidden -INSANITY of the UNDERWORLD-", on August 31st.
And you can't buy tickets. If you want a ticket for it. You have to buy the Kisaki memorial book and there is some coupon in it. You have to send that and 4000 yen to get a ticket. 1 book = 1 ticket. Japan only! And because the books were already sold out. A reprint.
I am not joking.
So that means the 1st edition of the book didn't include the coupon, only the re-print?
I always learn new ways of ripping the fuck off out of my fans, I love kisuckee
Kisaki is my hero :D
(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2984/royaldeadnotaxevasionex7.jpg)
they're not evading a tax
MILLIONS OF THEM!!
this goes with my rule i stated in the other thread, "if a band cannot dress themselves, they obviously cannot write good songs"
*sheds tears of felicity*
20/08 Phantasmagoria 「Past New Phase」-Phantasmagoria Tribute Album DELUX EDITION- CD album
20/08 Phantasmagoria Dejavu~Sanctuary of Revival~ CD documentary
20/08 Phantasmagoria Dejavu ~Sanctuary of Revival~ CD single
ETERNAL TAX EVASION REVIVAL -Memories from Jail-
i think of this band when i have the bad diarrhea that burns your ass hairs and it hurts to wipe for a few days.
Why's this thread even in the Music Discussion section?
because technically everything produced with guitars, no matter how cheap they are, and music skills, or lack of them, is music
regarding phantasmagoria - it's even a tea spoon of crappy queersual kei looks,
all the components for ultimate MENTAL EMETIC: ~ the crystal drops of puke ~
LOL
I love the names Kisaki makes up for these releases.
man, this shit is seven pages of "CERESTIARUU Anal Sexxx ~diarrhea panic~"
;D GOOD
I think there is only one or two songs I like by them (definitely nothing that I would listen to every day), but as far as their appearance...well...no. just no.