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Title: Diru
Post by: xKojix on August 06, 2007, 08:36:46 AM
Just out of a curious question, aside from the family values tour, has anyone else met Diru at other concerts? I met them at their show in Denver CO, on 02/16/07 and all I can say is they are very chill and fun guys. However never got to meet Kyo, he went to bed early that night. Great way to celebrate his birthday lol
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 07, 2007, 02:02:38 AM
only FVT for me. i didnt bother with that "preorder the new cd with the shitty fuckin bland american packaging and have a 1 in 100 chance to meet the band!"
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on August 07, 2007, 10:41:30 PM
lol on both replies.

There are hardly any cds worth pre-ordering.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 08, 2007, 09:38:19 AM
so are we gonna end up turning this into a serious dir en grey discussion? because i'd love to see what people have to say. most of the time they seem like a love or hate band.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Tsunetako on August 08, 2007, 02:41:57 PM
Everything that can be said about Dir en grey has been said.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on August 08, 2007, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on August 08, 2007, 09:38:19 AM
so are we gonna end up turning this into a serious dir en grey discussion? because i'd love to see what people have to say. most of the time they seem like a love or hate band.

let's not ... really...we all know what happens with deg threads >.< besides i think we already know the different opinions of the people here ffrom that other thread...
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on August 09, 2007, 03:20:29 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on August 08, 2007, 09:38:19 AM
so are we gonna end up turning this into a serious dir en grey discussion? because i'd love to see what people have to say. most of the time they seem like a love or hate band.

I don't think anyone can keep a serious discussion in Japanese Music forums if their life depended on it, ESPECIALLY when it's regarding this band. However, I'd love to see this place prove me wrong, honestly.


I haven't met the band, but i've seen them twice. When they were at FVT in Tampa, I  was across from them when they were meeting and greeting. I decided not to shake their hand because it would be so quick and...empty like.  I got a clear view at Die and Kaoru though, and it was pretty cool to see them up close like that. They look...very groomed which I found kinda hilarious. They play this raw, brutal music, yet keep a constant state of cleanliness lol.

One day i'd love to meet them after the show and just give them a handshake and conversing with them like adults and let them see they have some normal, level-headed fans.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on August 09, 2007, 09:12:10 AM
I don't understand why people keep raising the issue of DeG overall. Knowing full well it could turn into a fangirl/boy raving spot or a full blown argument. That's just me though.

I personally loved them until vulgar , and even vulgar was tolerable , now they are just crap , there really isn't another way to put it for me. I was turned off by Kyo's directions with whatever he calls his lyrical style now. Other than that long live stuff pre-vulgar. I crack out the cds once in a blue moon these days.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on August 09, 2007, 09:57:07 AM
I like the music they've been putting out recently, but prefer their older stuff.  Kyo definitely needs to sing more, in my opinion.  He has a great voice. I think songs like Namamekashiki Ansoku, Tamerai ni Hohoemi are a thousand times more powerful than screaming would ever be. It has its place, but not so much and so often.

Quote from: Karasu on August 09, 2007, 03:20:29 AM
One day i'd love to meet them after the show and just give them a handshake and conversing with them like adults and let them see they have some normal, level-headed fans.

Same here. I've met Kyo at FVT but that wasn't exactly a long 5 seconds. It would be nice to talk to them all about their influences, change in style, etc.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on August 09, 2007, 12:01:10 PM
For me, I used to be a "I love it all" Dir en grey fan. I liked Gauze, Macabre...that whole era of music. I think since last year however, I've grown out of love with their older music. It just...doesn't capture the level of emotion and force that the newer albums dish out. Hell, even Kisou I find...boring lately. The intensity and production of the albums six Ugly and beyond have been just mind-blowing to me. I totally understand and get the direction they're going towards. They're influenced by the bands of the west lately yes [Muse comes to mind], but they still have their own sound to it, and have not SOLELY become Death Metal, or Metalcore or Hard Rock/Nu-Metal. They blend those styles of music and fuse it with their own style and it creates this unique sound for them. I love it, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Give me 'The Deeper Vileness' over 'Schwein no Isu' anyday.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on August 09, 2007, 04:57:36 PM
^ i basically am the same way ... i was a love it all fan to but  as time went on i listened to the older stuff less ...well except for kisou <3 (which is still my favorite album)

i don't really know why i like the newer stuff more... I've never been the type to like that kind of music *in fact i used to hate it and couldn't understand why people could listen to all that screaming xD and to me all metal/or any kind of heavy heavy rock was all screaming nonsense* but somehow deg made me like it... it's strange...and from that I've grown to like other bands that have that metally/heavy sound (don't shoot me, genre impaired remember) ... even though as of MOAB kyo has gone all screamy (cuz honestly i don't think WTD was that bad with screaming at all) the overall songs impact me more i think then let's say cage does... yea...
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: lyrandis on August 13, 2007, 12:26:30 AM
I like certain albums when I'm in certain moods. Sometimes I can't stand their new stuff, and sometimes that's all I want to listen to.

I do though miss the times when you could ask someone "Hey, do you like Dir en grey?" and if they said yeah, you could start talking about all sorts of Jrock things. But now it seems like first I ask if the person likes Dir en grey just to make sure he/she is open to music from another country. Then I have to ask if they also like The GazettE or some other band. Most of the time they don't know wtf I'm talking about. v.v  And some people like them just because they're "sicker" than the next band. That just bothers me with any band. If the answer to the question of "Why do you like this band?" is something like "Oh because the lead singer is HOT!" or "The band members are pyro freaks," then I just lose respect for that person. Bands are supposed to be about the music first, right?  ???
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 30, 2007, 10:52:11 PM
new single Dozing Green, 10/24/07. holla. discuss. high hopes?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on August 30, 2007, 11:11:27 PM
yup we were talking about it at another forum... so apparently it's supposed to be different from anything they've ever done...so we're all taking guess on what it shall be...i quickly said techno ...but meh they've added bits and pieces before ...so now i think the consensus is music to get stoned too ...especially with a name like dozing green..

all things aside though i'm freaking excited since it feels like it's been awhile ... i look forward to it and seeing as this and tsubasa are coming out the same day i will be an extremely happy little girl
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on August 30, 2007, 11:48:06 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on August 30, 2007, 10:52:11 PM
new single Dozing Green, 10/24/07. holla. discuss. high hopes?

Yey, what nice news to come home to! 8D I was wondering when another single would be released.

I'm leaning toward thinking it'll be along the lines of Ryoujoku no Ame for some reason (melodic with a bit of screams thrown in), but something different from what they've done in the past? Hm...that could be anything from techno-style stuff to operatic vocals in the background. XD Hopefully they won't go the 'rap-route' which I've noticed a few bands have been doing in certain songs..  The thought of Kyo rapping makes me die a little inside. >_o;

As for the name, it kinda makes me think Dozing Green = sleepy, desolate sort of landscape. Maybe they're going to shock us all with a totally mellow song or something! XD

Random thought: Search for Dozing Green to get a bunch of graffiti art/artists sites and a few hip-hop links.
..Okay, now I'm a little nervous. *waits patiently until the 24th*
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on August 31, 2007, 12:01:42 AM
lol well i wouldn't be surprise if kyo started rapping ... haven't you seen him lately ..he's such a pimp =]

no but actually i'm pretty set on thinking it's a slow song *looking at the pictures on their website and the stuff laround it ...it definately has that roujoku no ame , embryo vibe*. at the same time the name dozing green makes me think of shoegaze or post rock or smth though i doubt it ...we'll see i can't wait for them to put up a freaken sample
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 31, 2007, 12:16:11 AM
i really hope its like Ryoujoku no Ame type stuff. i really thought Clever Sleazoid and Ryoujoku no Ame had a good direction in where their music was going, but then they went to Family Values tour and thought "holy crap America loves heavy messy music" so their album took that direction. so hopefully they are back to evolving further from where they were BEFORE Marrow. i kindof wonder if its gonna have like a post-hardcore sound, like more so than Vulgar and Withering did, and not so much of a metal sound as Marrow did. for those who listen to american bands... im thinking along the lines of like Thrice and The Used, like bands who are considered in the post-hardcore genre, but play around with the sound a lot.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: akri on August 31, 2007, 11:38:57 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on August 30, 2007, 10:52:11 PM
new single Dozing Green, 10/24/07. holla. discuss. high hopes?

That Good news!!!!!!!!!
i can't wait!! ;D :D
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on August 31, 2007, 12:53:55 PM
 That song ( Ryoujoku no Ame ) made me think the album was going to be decent , because that song was decent , boy was a lied to.

I do think it's time for them to disband or try other projects or something.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on August 31, 2007, 01:25:03 PM
 ::)

anywhoo i would definitely like it if they went back to withering or vulgar and worked there way from there again =] i liked marrow of a bone but  as far as newer works are concerned vulgar and withering still top it...so if they went back more that route it would be lovely ~
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on August 31, 2007, 04:34:11 PM
Dozing Green? WTFoosh? They need to stop. Really.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 4skin, on August 31, 2007, 05:07:33 PM
im really pulling for this new single. for me, it'll probably decide for me as to whether i go see them or not. i don't only want to hear things off of marrow of a bone or whatever. i wouldn't mind if they played songs off of withering though.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: ghostface on August 31, 2007, 06:13:03 PM
I'm really looking forward to this single. I love the direction their music has taken as of Vulgar and beyond. I like their old stuff too but I think what they're doing now is more exciting.

Quote from: ObscureWarumono on August 30, 2007, 11:48:06 PM
Random thought: Search for Dozing Green to get a bunch of graffiti art/artists sites and a few hip-hop links.

Nice find =] There seems to be an artist named Doze Green. I wonder if he could be their inspiration. But it may be a coincidence. Which makes me wonder if dozing green could be slang for something. Then again, it could be just random.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on August 31, 2007, 08:31:32 PM
This is supposed to be a serious dicussion forum, not a cheap shot forum, leave that shit for the flame bait section ok children? Thanks.


Anyway, I have no idea what to expect with the new single. Their names have been weird for ages and so because of that, I don't really care about the song title, because that should never dictate how good a song is *looks at an ignorant comment couple of posts up*. So yea I hope for the best, their last singles have been instant listeners for me so I expect no less with them. They're doing great and expanding their sound all over the world, so to disband would be a petty, retarded thing, it wouldn't happen anytime soon.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Vessicator on August 31, 2007, 09:12:02 PM
Except for the fact that their current 'sound' is inferior to that of their previous works. Anyone who's listened to Diru long enough can tell you that their new works thus far have been nothing more but a waste of time an money for both the artists and the fans.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on August 31, 2007, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: Karasu on August 31, 2007, 08:31:32 PM
*looks at an ignorant comment couple of posts up*

Silly hypocrite goose, I meant that they should stop coming up with retarded names, not that they should stop making music all together.

Remember kiddies, assuming makes an ass out of both u and me.  :)
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on August 31, 2007, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: Vessicator on August 31, 2007, 09:12:02 PM
Except for the fact that their current 'sound' is inferior to that of their previous works. Anyone who's listened to Diru long enough can tell you that their new works thus far have been nothing more but a waste of time an money for both the artists and the fans.

depends on the listener...

besides the way i feel about it is if you don't like their new work then don't listen to it ...but there are plenty of people who do so to say they should disband to me is pretty silly. not to mention if they were to disband it would be silly on their part because even if they're losing old fans they're still gaining new ones.(that is if that's their motivation for making music) Even so making music shouldn't be about the fans anyway ...it should be about making music you like and if you get fans in the process then that's all good and well. If they enjoy playing the music they're doing then more power to them and they should continue to do so. If they really really cared about what people or their old fans thought of them they would've disbanded a long time ago when they got all those hateful comments from fans after they first started changing their sound.


Quoteassuming makes an ass out of both u and me.

oh that is so cute xD <3


Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 31, 2007, 10:49:40 PM
Quote from: neovampire on August 31, 2007, 08:28:59 AM
Here's something they've never done before, disband.
Try that out.  >:(

thats uncalled for. everyone knows that Kyo, Kaoru, Die, Toshiya, and Shinya are all retarded for eachother.

im personally very excited for this single. just because not everyone liked Marrow doesnt mean this single will suck. if you guys havent noticed, none of their albums sound exactly the same. they are a constantly evolving band. if you dont like their current sound, just wait, or just dont fucking complain for once.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on September 01, 2007, 12:29:22 AM
Quote from: fangy89 on August 31, 2007, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: Karasu on August 31, 2007, 08:31:32 PM
*looks at an ignorant comment couple of posts up*

Silly hypocrite goose, I meant that they should stop coming up with retarded names, not that they should stop making music all together.

Remember kiddies, assuming makes an ass out of both u and me.  :)


QuoteI don't really care about the song title, because that should never dictate how good a song is

Uh huh, you didn't read what I said. It's ok, I just corrected you.



Anyway signal, they'll always bitch, because this band stopped doing generic j-rock music, and stopped with the whole refined sound and music that the entire scene was and now is notorious for. They're not like the other Japanese bands out there, and they resent and bitch about it, to try and make themselves feel better.

It's like this, I used to listen to Linkin Park and KoRn...they were good in the beginning for me and I loved them a lot. However, after the years went by, their music didn't appeal to me, so you know what I did? I stopped listening to them and stopped following their music. I haven't heard Minutes to Midnight and I listened to Untitled from KoRn briefly and then deleted it. See, thats what you should with bands you have no more interest in. Instead you got these jap music freaks that bitch about a band for the sake of bitching about a band, because they know they dont like it, yet they'll keep listening to think that maybe the band will pull a 'Cage' or an 'Audrey' out of their asses. It's predictable with this scene's fandom, and it's pathetic.

Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on September 01, 2007, 01:16:06 AM
I <3 DeG convos. =3

You'll have those that defend them no matter what , and those that don't care for them , or the other 90% of the board who have other stuff to listen to.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on September 01, 2007, 01:32:43 AM
Quote from: 마왕 on September 01, 2007, 01:16:06 AM
I <3 DeG convos. =3

You'll have those that defend them no matter what , and those that don't care for them , or the other 90% of the board who have other stuff to listen to.

And you forgot to divide the 'those who don't care for them' into two more subcategories: those that casually say so and then leave it alone, and those that insult the band to start flamewars, because we all know that getting the Dir en grey fans pissed off makes a person's e-penis grow an extra foot with each angry post! 8D
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 01, 2007, 01:43:39 AM
Quote from: ObscureWarumono on September 01, 2007, 01:32:43 AM
Quote from: 마왕 on September 01, 2007, 01:16:06 AM
I <3 DeG convos. =3

You'll have those that defend them no matter what , and those that don't care for them , or the other 90% of the board who have other stuff to listen to.
And you forgot to divide the 'those who don't care for them' into two more subcategories: those that casually say so and then leave it alone, and those that insult the band to start flamewars, because we all know that getting the Dir en grey fans pissed off makes a person's e-penis grow an extra foot with each angry post! 8D

lol so true =/

this is why i was hoping there wouldn't be a DEG thread here to begin with this always happens...if we needed a flame-war thread to do battle with each other we already have one in the flame-pit section =P

Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on September 01, 2007, 01:55:31 AM
Quote from: 마왕 on September 01, 2007, 01:16:06 AM
I <3 DeG convos. =3

You'll have those that defend them no matter what , and those that don't care for them , or the other 90% of the board who have other stuff to listen to.

Oh I wonder where I fit in  ::)
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: reddish on September 01, 2007, 01:49:56 PM
Just a question.
How long have you all been listening to Dir en grey?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: ghostface on September 01, 2007, 02:46:53 PM
A year. I started with Kisou and went through their discography up to MoaB, then listened to Gazue, Missa and Macabre.

Does that prove anything in your book? Cos I don't think it matters how long you've been listening to a band. It rather depends on the listener. Some people like their music to be versatile and are okay with any changes the band's music may undergo, others get attached to a specific sound and tend to measure everything else against it. And don't forget that people's tastes evolve too, so even if you've been listening to a band from the very beginning your opinion as to what's good and bad about their music tends to change too. The band makes more music, and you listen to other bands, you get fascinated by new things or rediscover music you liked in the past and so on.

So I think your question is irrelevant for this discussion, unless you were just curious.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: akri on September 01, 2007, 02:49:29 PM
Quote from: neovampire on September 01, 2007, 01:49:56 PM
Just a question.
How long have you all been listening to Dir en grey?

it's will be over 2 years!!
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 01, 2007, 03:27:47 PM
by now it's been 3 years but i don't think it matters much ...One of my friends has only been listening to them for 2 and she likes their older stuff more =P like i said before it just depends on the listener. unless you were just curious (because i don't know how many times that question is followed by some remark that ends up making me want to e-slap the person.)

besides when i first started listening to them i liked everything equally..over time i just began to like the newer stuff more.  Even more so i like the fact that they have different types of music in their discography instead of being a one trick pony and having 7 Gauzes under their belt. I've heard the argument before that newer fans just don't get it because they haven't been with Deg from the begging or the older years... and whatever other excuses older fans like to give...however like karasu said up there holds true for me too ...back in the day I loved linkin park (yes don't throw rocks at me) blah blah blah they go away for a while they release minutes to midnight ... it's different and i don't like it (at all i hate it actually)...So what do i do? i delete off my computer and don't listen to it. If there's a conversation about LP then i say "you know i used to like them but their recent stuff isn't doing it 'for me " and leave it at that. I don't go into every LP thread i can find and go "You know what dammit i wish they'd disband" or "Oh my fucking gawd theyh suck so much i wish they'd just die" or whatever just to start a flame war... there's no point... it's a waste of your time and a waste of mine to start a flame war ...especially in what is supposed to be a flameless forum where we discuss the artists not fight each other like babies over them ...that's what the flame pit is for... but for some reason when it comes to dir en grey people just can't let go and people just can't be civil what is so fascinating about them that makes me people go crazy? i don't get it but whatever =/
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on September 01, 2007, 04:23:06 PM
DaI 6 has gotten the idea ;D!

Seriously, I just wish we could discuss this band normally without the fighting, without the fangirling. They're a band now, a simple band.



Anyway to the question above, ive been listening to them for about....6 years I would say. I got into them around the time Filth, Jessica and Embryo came out as singles. I didn't know those songs at the time, but my friend is school sent me two songs from Dir en grey, Tsumi to Batsu and Raison Detre. I was all "wtf is this, its so not like what ive ever heard" But that was it, I was hooked. Personally, I thought i was introduced to them the right way, aka not hearing that damn song 'Cage' first lmao. :P
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: xbiinex on September 01, 2007, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on September 01, 2007, 03:27:47 PM
by now it's been 3 years but i don't think it matters much ...One of my friends has only been listening to them for 2 and she likes their older stuff more =P like i said before it just depends on the listener. unless you were just curious (because i don't know how many times that question is followed by some remark that ends up making me want to e-slap the person.)

besides when i first started listening to them i liked everything equally..over time i just began to like the newer stuff more.  Even more so i like the fact that they have different types of music in their discography instead of being a one trick pony and having 7 Gauzes under their belt. I've heard the argument before that newer fans just don't get it because they haven't been with Deg from the begging or the older years... and whatever other excuses older fans like to give...however like karasu said up there holds true for me too ...back in the day I loved linkin park (yes don't throw rocks at me) blah blah blah they go away for a while they release minutes to midnight ... it's different and i don't like it (at all i hate it actually)...So what do i do? i delete off my computer and don't listen to it. If there's a conversation about LP then i say "you know i used to like them but their recent stuff isn't doing it 'for me " and leave it at that. I don't go into every LP thread i can find and go "You know what dammit i wish they'd disband" or "Oh my fucking gawd theyh suck so much i wish they'd just die" or whatever just to start a flame war... there's no point... it's a waste of your time and a waste of mine to start a flame war ...especially in what is supposed to be a flameless forum where we discuss the artists not fight each other like babies over them ...that's what the flame pit is for... but for some reason when it comes to dir en grey people just can't let go and people just can't be civil what is so fascinating about them that makes me people go crazy? i don't get it but whatever =/

Fully agree.
Nobody's being forced to listen to them. If you like them it's okay. If you don't like them it's also okay. If you used to like them but you don't like their new stuff just forget about them and find yourself something you like better. And accept the fact that there are fans who like their new style. To me it's as simple as that. It's absolutely irrelevant for how long you've been listening to them. I totally understand that their fanbase keeps changing - the same way that their musical styles have been changing. I think any band that doesn't stick to one type of sound or style will experience such fluctuation. But I doubt there are many bands whose fans are that bitchy.

As for the new single I just read in another forum that some people heard them play a new song during the rehearsals for their recent shows in Germany. They said it was a rather slow song and they liked it. Well, I wasn't there myself - just read it. And, of course, there's no guarantee it was this particular song.

And I would never judge a deg song by its title without hearing it. They have too many songs with strange titles. So it doesn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on September 01, 2007, 08:06:17 PM
Thier slow songs are better , I prefer Kyo singing to his slobber/rasp bussiness. Embryo is till one of thier stronger songs. I personally can't get tired of Kisou , Gauze and Macabre. Everything else is wtf to me.

Mind you , I haven't actively listened to DeG for more than 3 songs in a row in over 3 years.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 03, 2007, 01:28:44 AM
Quote from: neovampire on September 01, 2007, 01:49:56 PM
Just a question.
How long have you all been listening to Dir en grey?

about a year and a half. a few months before Withering to Death came out in the US.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 03, 2007, 01:32:50 AM
lol so today i was talking to one of my more gangsta friends back home and i was telling them how excited i was about upcoming singles, and he's all like " oh here she goes with her Japanese crap again" when i mentioned the title of diru's single was dozing green...he stopped and asked "what do they know about that" ...I said "about what?" ...and he tells me that dozing green apparently means to smoke weed...
Quoteso now i think the consensus is music to get stoned too...especially with a name like dozing green
i was just being stupid but now I'm scared xD
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on September 03, 2007, 03:35:19 AM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on September 03, 2007, 01:32:50 AM
lol so today i was talking to one of my more gangsta friends back home and i was telling them how excited i was about upcoming singles, and he's all like " oh here she goes with her Japanese crap again" when i mentioned the title of diru's single was dozing green...he stopped and asked "what do they know about that" ...I said "about what?" ...and he tells me that dozing green apparently means to smoke weed...

Actually that's not surprising. At all. In fact, it explains quite a few things. Or maybe that's just me again.  ::)

Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on September 03, 2007, 03:43:03 AM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on September 01, 2007, 03:27:47 PM
but for some reason when it comes to dir en grey people just can't let go and people just can't be civil what is so fascinating about them that makes me people go crazy? i don't get it but whatever =/

My guess is the reactions..many people have (and still do) overreact to things that are said about them, so it's guaranteed that insulting the band has a pretty good chance of pissing people off, as opposed to insulting I dunno, ∀NTI FEMINISM or something.  Just look at the epic lulz that the Diru myspace hacker helped create! XD

Anyways, I've been listening to them since summer 2005. I heard Garden and thought it was amazing, like nothing I had heard before (I had been a pop-rock and j-pop listener). After Garden I had heard some of Macabre which I liked, and then Withering to Death which HATED at first. However once I learned more about the band, read translations, heard opinions and found different reviews and etc, it grew on me after listening to it more and more. Now I'd have to say Macabre is a favorite album of mine, along with Kisou and Missa. Oh, and the Marrow unplugged versions too. *O* Their new stuff is still good, I just personally prefer Kyo's singing to raw screams. But to each their own..I think it's pretty cool how they never keep the same style for too long. It not ony allows for more musical freedom (Dir en grey = change is expected!!!!) but also for more people to be fans..if you don't like the new album with the 'metal' sound, there's always another or the ones that came before it.

On the title: I realized, since when have their titles been an obvious clue to what the song is about? I can't think of any off the top of my head..but I doubt there are many. o_o It could be some strange double meaning that relates to something entirely different, but you're able to possibly link it to something the song is about with little chance you may be right doing so! XD If that makes sense.. O_O;
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 03, 2007, 03:56:07 AM


Quote from: ObscureWarumono on September 03, 2007, 03:43:03 AM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on September 01, 2007, 03:27:47 PM
but for some reason when it comes to dir en grey people just can't let go and people just can't be civil what is so fascinating about them that makes me people go crazy? i don't get it but whatever =/

My guess is the reactions..many people have (and still do) overreact to things that are said about them, so it's guaranteed that insulting the band has a pretty good chance of pissing people off, as opposed to insulting I dunno, ∀NTI FEMINISM or something.  Just look at the epic lulz that the Diru myspace hacker helped create! XD

Anyways, I've been listening to them since summer 2005. I heard Garden and thought it was amazing, like nothing I had heard before (I had been a pop-rock and j-pop listener). After Garden I had heard some of Macabre which I liked, and then Withering to Death which HATED at first. However once I learned more about the band, read translations, heard opinions and found different reviews and etc, it grew on me after listening to it more and more. Now I'd have to say Macabre is a favorite album of mine, along with Kisou and Missa. Oh, and the Marrow unplugged versions too. *O* Their new stuff is still good, I just personally prefer Kyo's singing to raw screams. But to each their own..I think it's pretty cool how they never keep the same style for too long. It not ony allows for more musical freedom (Dir en grey = change is expected!!!!) but also for more people to be fans..if you don't like the new album with the 'metal' sound, there's always another or the ones that came before it.

On the title: I realized, since when have their titles been an obvious clue to what the song is about? I can't think of any off the top of my head..but I doubt there are many. o_o It could be some strange double meaning that relates to something entirely different, but you're able to possibly link it to something the song is about with little chance you may be right doing so! XD If that makes sense.. O_O;

lol that made sense until about the last line i think i get it what you're saying though

oh yes! the hacker thing was hilarious ...i got in on it after it blew over and all but reading all the comments provided soo many lulz =/ i just think both sides can be childish when it comes to them ...it's sad...but maybe one day there will be a miracle and peace can be made between deg fans... maybe

Quote from: fangy89 on September 03, 2007, 03:35:19 AM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on September 03, 2007, 01:32:50 AM
lol so today i was talking to one of my more gangsta friends back home and i was telling them how excited i was about upcoming singles, and he's all like " oh here she goes with her Japanese crap again" when i mentioned the title of diru's single was dozing green...he stopped and asked "what do they know about that" ...I said "about what?" ...and he tells me that dozing green apparently means to smoke weed...

Actually that's not surprising. At all. In fact, it explains quite a few things. Or maybe that's just me again.  ::)



LMAO I <3 you fangy

Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on September 03, 2007, 04:09:59 AM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on September 03, 2007, 03:56:07 AM
maybe one day there will be a miracle and peace can be made between deg fans... maybe

Asking for peace between Dir fans is like asking for world peace..you can get all the people in the world to pray for it, but it's highly unlikely that it'll happen in our lifetimes. </pessimist>
Meh..we can still hope though..I guess. ^^;

PEACE, OR KYO WILL RAPE THE HATERS ON THEIR DAUGHTERS' GRAVES, LEIK HE DID TO THE HACKER!!!!1
(sorry, I couldn't help that one, lol)
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 03, 2007, 04:16:32 AM
xD rofl oh my


hehe i know I'm a dreamer xD such a shame though it will never happen =/

Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 琴乃 on September 14, 2007, 12:39:49 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on August 31, 2007, 12:16:11 AM
i really hope its like Ryoujoku no Ame type stuff. i really thought Clever Sleazoid and Ryoujoku no Ame had a good direction in where their music was going

I really would like something like those singles too =)

But I think there's still hope. As their official myspace says:

"DOZING GREEN will give fans a chance to hear a brand new track with a brand new sound for the band:

It took a long session of trial and error before DIR EN GREY came to the final version of DOZING GREEN. This track is definitely one that represents the new DIR EN GREY combined with elements that has never been in their music before."


So, what do you guys think?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 14, 2007, 05:26:01 AM
i bet its gonna be very Deftones-sounding. its a sound they havent really done, plus theyve been doing songs with new sounds based off the bands theyve played with. after playing with Bury Your Dead at Family Values Tour they made 'Lie Buried With a Vengeance'.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: mjmclean on September 21, 2007, 02:03:58 PM
Hmm. I don't know. I love all the Deg albums [never got into Missa, though], but The Marrow of a Bone is not for me at all. Every loud song has the same feel and heaviness, and is just downright offensive vocally [coming from me, that's pretty bad!]. For the record, while sixUgly and Vulgar split the fanbase up, I enjoyed both of them just as much as their previous albums.

However, there are a few songs which really caught my attention, and I believe that they are the best that they've made since kisou. Conceived Sorrow is bliss, and Namamekashiki Ansoku, Tomadoi ni Hohoemi is probably among my top ten Deg songs ~ever~.

The Pledge is alright, a kind of average song as far as Dir en grey goes, and if I were to pick one of the loud songs, it would probably be Grief... this is stretching, though. The single version of Clever Sleazoid was much better than the album one. I really want to like this album, but I'm having trouble. :'(

The comment on their myspace gives me a lot of hope!

"DOZING GREEN will give fans a chance to hear a brand new track with a brand new sound for the band"

Please change your sound! ANYTHING but TMOAB!

That being said, I will definitely download first, and if I like it, I'll buy it for real.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 21, 2007, 08:43:50 PM
knowing Dir en grey, they arent gonna repeat what they just did last. they're done with the Marrow stuff. their sound is just constantly changing, i think every new cd they make they dont just evolve for one albums worth time, its like they jumped 5 albums of redefining themselves. of course there are high high chances that the song will still be heavy, but not exactly like Marrow.

well they've played this song a few times live now, for a[knot] and for general shows too... has anyone read anything about a fans thoughts of it and how it sounds?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on September 23, 2007, 07:31:46 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on September 21, 2007, 08:43:50 PM
well they've played this song a few times live now, for a[knot] and for general shows too... has anyone read anything about a fans thoughts of it and how it sounds?

I've heard from someone who was at one of the Europe shows that they heard Diru playing some completely new song as a practice before the show..that could have been it. They said it was heavy, yet slow and kind of mellow. I wish I could remember what live they said it was..I talk to too many people on soulseek. xD;;
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 23, 2007, 08:32:38 AM
if its heavy but slow and mellow, its most likely a Deftones-esque song.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on September 23, 2007, 09:54:54 AM
Such a lot of emotional comments here
Don't you understand that Dir en grey _want_ to sell out outside of Japan? That's why westernish heavy stuff is written  -the marrow of a bone is an album of three songs, Conceived sorrow, fatal believer and the pledge, other, minus singles, are simple fillers, that should please not related to jrock listeners.
Ignore them and wait for new single - Diru have lots of great older stuff to listen, and not to mention, they actually play macabre songs at japanese lives - that's also some kind of signal.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on September 23, 2007, 02:09:12 PM
I will shit bricks if they play my 2 fav song live here in the states.

1. Mitsu To Tsuba
2. Mask

Bricks I tell you. Old school love I still have.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 23, 2007, 04:51:03 PM
^ actually i would too those are my 2 favorite songs from gauze o.O
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 23, 2007, 05:14:27 PM
Quote from: nekki_chibi on September 23, 2007, 09:54:54 AM
Such a lot of emotional comments here
Don't you understand that Dir en grey _want_ to sell out outside of Japan? That's why westernish heavy stuff is written  -the marrow of a bone is an album of three songs, Conceived sorrow, fatal believer and the pledge, other, minus singles, are simple fillers, that should please not related to jrock listeners.
Ignore them and wait for new single - Diru have lots of great older stuff to listen, and not to mention, they actually play macabre songs at japanese lives - that's also some kind of signal.

they JUST started to play Macabre songs again. they JUST started to play old songs again live in general. next time they come to the states, they'll be playing them no doubt.

and how is 'Namamekashiki Ansoku Tamerai ni Hohoemi' just filler and shouldnt be jrock related if its a beautiful song with the lyrics composed completely in japanese?

its one thing if you dont like the bands music. its another thing when you're trying to attack them. i dont see how they even sold out. its not like they perform on tv all the time, or use their songs to advertise various products that have nothing to do with their music. if you argue that their change of sound is selling out... well, they change their sound EVERY album because they dont want to feed their fans the same album but in a series of volumes. oh no they wanted to get bigger outside of japan. boo-hoo. people have ambitions.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on September 23, 2007, 06:58:41 PM
People who normally say a band "sells out" have no idea what they are talking about 90% of the time.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on September 24, 2007, 12:23:20 AM
Personally, I think MUCC is the definition of 'sell out' but that's just me :P


When Dir en grey come back to the states, id really love if they played their six Ugly material. For me, that was the best era. Original visuals but not gaudy and overdone, and kickass music with great production. Who didn't love Kaoru's Picnic Jacket? But id like them to play some Gauze and Macabre stuff too, but not the generic jrock/vk stuff, more like the songs that have a neutral original sound.


And fuck if they played Mitsu to Tsuba...that would be godlike. That was my first Dir en grey song, fuck Cage. lmao.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 24, 2007, 12:28:45 AM
i think my old song requests for their future lives would have to be like... Tsumi to Batsu/Mitsu to Tsuba, Raison D'etre, Deity, Zakuro, 24ko Cylinder, and Karasu. and anything off of Six Ugly or Vulgar that theyve kept in their more recent rotation, like Marmalade Chainsaw, Red...[em], Drain Away, Hades, Ugly.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 24, 2007, 01:58:45 AM
pssshhhh the best thing ever would be if they played gyakujou tennou KELOID milk live here ...which i believe they did on ONE very lucky stop on their tour.... that would be fucking mind-blowing love for me right there >.< of course though they can play anything from kisou and vulgar and i'll blow a casket...but let's see if they ever decided out of the blue to play [Kr]cube, egnirys cimredoyh, or berry live here i would die and like it was said earlier mask or mitsu to tsuba >.<! ...and yokan ... mostly because i want to see kyo dance like that live xD

*and seconds karasu's fuck cage sentiments...that song is soooo overrated >.<*
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on September 24, 2007, 04:01:10 AM
I'm seriously wondering how Hydra is gonna sound all updated now. They should re-make all their harder songs to give them a 'marrow' sound. I know i'll be crucified for saying that, but seriously to hear ZAN with an attitude and ferocity such as The Deeper Vileness....sounds hot.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 24, 2007, 06:43:59 AM
Quote from: Karasu on September 24, 2007, 04:01:10 AM
I'm seriously wondering how Hydra is gonna sound all updated now. They should re-make all their harder songs to give them a 'marrow' sound. I know i'll be crucified for saying that, but seriously to hear ZAN with an attitude and ferocity such as The Deeper Vileness....sounds hot.

yeah i thought about that. their older heavy songs deserve a truly heavy sound. ZAN would sound nuts, as with Schwein no Isu. the "Geist Seele Wille Zelle" would sound like the "go back to doing" from Garbage. it would be so insane.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on September 24, 2007, 12:23:35 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on September 23, 2007, 05:14:27 PM
they JUST started to play Macabre songs again. they JUST started to play old songs again live in general. next time they come to the states, they'll be playing them no doubt.

and how is 'Namamekashiki Ansoku Tamerai ni Hohoemi' just filler and shouldnt be jrock related if its a beautiful song with the lyrics composed completely in japanese?

its one thing if you dont like the bands music. its another thing when you're trying to attack them. i dont see how they even sold out. its not like they perform on tv all the time, or use their songs to advertise various products that have nothing to do with their music. if you argue that their change of sound is selling out... well, they change their sound EVERY album because they dont want to feed their fans the same album but in a series of volumes. oh no they wanted to get bigger outside of japan. boo-hoo. people have ambitions.
omg, s-rry, this suddenly gone too hard - I meant they wanted to sell - sell out is more usable for mucc, or miyavi e.g.
'Namamekashiki Ansoku Tamerai ni Hohoemi' is a simple 'tender song that has to be' - and it does seem filling for me as Withering to death had similarly composed, similarly sounding track - I don't really care about balladish side of Dir en grey since Mushi. Their harder songs sound much more interesting.
Quotepssshhhh the best thing ever would be if they played gyakujou tennou KELOID milk live here
!!
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on September 25, 2007, 02:52:33 AM
Quote from: Karasu on September 24, 2007, 04:01:10 AM
I'm seriously wondering how Hydra is gonna sound all updated now. They should re-make all their harder songs to give them a 'marrow' sound. I know i'll be crucified for saying that, but seriously to hear ZAN with an attitude and ferocity such as The Deeper Vileness....sounds hot.

ZAN would sound pretty interesting with a heavier sound, just as long as Kyo still laughs insanely. XD
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on September 25, 2007, 04:17:26 AM
Laughing insanely is stupid
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on September 25, 2007, 04:50:58 AM
Quote from: clobberingtyme on September 25, 2007, 04:17:26 AM
Laughing insanely is stupid

:P
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 25, 2007, 05:58:02 AM
Quote from: clobberingtyme on September 25, 2007, 04:17:26 AM
Laughing insanely is stupid

it gets the army off your back =D when they called to try and recruit my friend she put -Zan- on the phone and they never called back ... then again this is the same friend who brought  a knife to the door when the Jehovah's witnesses came around lol
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: mjmclean on September 27, 2007, 04:22:43 PM
Quote from: 마왕 on September 23, 2007, 06:58:41 PM
People who normally say a band "sells out" have no idea what they are talking about 90% of the time.

I think a band has 'sold out' once they have action figures, mugs, and other pointless artefacts made which are nothing to do with the music at all.

Excited about the new single. ;D
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 27, 2007, 08:29:19 PM
Quote from: mjmclean on September 27, 2007, 04:22:43 PM
Quote from: 마왕 on September 23, 2007, 06:58:41 PM
People who normally say a band "sells out" have no idea what they are talking about 90% of the time.

I think a band has 'sold out' once they have action figures, mugs, and other pointless artefacts made which are nothing to do with the music at all.

ehh, i dont think action figures necessarily make you sell out. Misfits had action figures in the 80s. of course its the question NOW whether or not theyve sold out... i'd say yes, but not in the 80s. i dont think little peripharels like that make you sell out as long as it still has to do with your band. i mean, hell, i'd want action figures of my favorite bands. but if your music is used to advertise products that have nothing to do with your music, then thats really selling out. like artists whos music is on car commercials and crap.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on September 27, 2007, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on September 27, 2007, 08:29:19 PM
i dont think little peripharels like that make you sell out as long as it still has to do with your band.

Peripherals =/= action figures.

Quote from: signal to noise on September 27, 2007, 08:29:19 PM
but if your music is used to advertise products that have nothing to do with your music, then thats really selling out. like artists whos music is on car commercials and crap.

They give these companies permission to use their songs because it's also advertising their music. Based on your logic, you can say the same thing about band tees since a cotton-polyester blend has nothing to do with their music.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on September 27, 2007, 08:57:34 PM
Dir en grey must of sold out then , because they do have little kubricks of them from years ago. They are for your cell phone.

Eh , I don't think they've sold out , I just think sound wise they have gotten rather bad. That's my only reason for hating on them. I used to be a huge DeG fan , then vulgar , wtd and so on came out and =/

As for the car commercials , that can't even count as selling out either , because they use flloyd's money , and all kinds of bands that are no longer around , or are old and known as classics like metallica and such on commericals for the last 10 years.

When it comes to japanese bands , I think they've sold out once they do an anime intro. I don't like anime all that much , so it irks me to even see it on an anime. B-T has done two anime intros in thier career , and that makes me sad. It attracts like the worse kind of fans when it's on anime.

I would not mind having deg action figures from like raison detre or mitsu to tsuba. I'd rock those on my desk.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on September 27, 2007, 09:04:55 PM
Quote from: 마왕 on September 27, 2007, 08:57:34 PM
When it comes to japanese bands , I think they've sold out once they do an anime intro. I don't like anime all that much , so it irks me to even see it on an anime.
Child Prey was used as anime opening, here it goes ))
I can't say that making an anime intro is equal to selling out, but for some bands it's a very fast and...'cheap' way to get popular, when they throw average or below average songs into anime promotion - see LmC, 12012, Ancafe
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on September 27, 2007, 09:07:46 PM
Og god , eww , they used L.M.C as a anime song. I heard An Cafe is doing one as well.

What anime was child prey used for? O_o
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on September 27, 2007, 10:04:14 PM
Baki the Grappler
I didn't watch the series, but manga pretty sucks imho
there's a sample episode (and separate intro) at http://www.bakithegrappler.com/
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 27, 2007, 10:18:48 PM
i thought child prey was only used for like 1 episode?

erm iono i don't necessarily think doing an anime theme is selling out but that's just me...what would be more like it too me would be like if Dir en grey did one of those pepsi commercials or smth xD and the idea of action figures i would kind of put in there but only because it would creep me out but erm i don't quite think that's selling out either >_> but what do i know anyway ^_^;; 
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: mjmclean on September 27, 2007, 10:30:03 PM
Maybe 'selling out' is when an artist stops caring about the music they are making and starts to care more about the money. Every artist wants to make money and wants their art to be a success, but some decide that they'll stick to a formula that works and release merchandise which is unrelated to the mantra of how the band thought previously. They know that they have rabid fanboys/fangirls out there, and they are willing to sacrifice their integrity by ripping their fans off with things they don't need, but will buy just so they have collected everything.

I don't think Dir en grey have sold out. They are changing their sound, which alienates a large percentage of their fanbase, which is like the opposite thing to selling out. It doesn't really matter that Child Prey was used in an anime, seeing as that was still about the music and not about products.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on September 27, 2007, 10:32:01 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on September 27, 2007, 10:18:48 PM
what would be more like it too me would be like if Dir en grey did one of those pepsi commercials or smth
I'd better like McDonalds CM based on Agitated Screams of Maggots PV footage.
'We love to make you smile'
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 27, 2007, 10:38:03 PM
^ lol that would be hilarious xD
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on September 27, 2007, 11:05:11 PM
search youtube for mcdonalds kung-fu , it's great. I'd buy more mickyD's if it came with Kung Fu
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 28, 2007, 02:00:26 AM
well back on the subject of Dir en grey and not selling out (i think we've kindof all agreed they have not sold out, some people just dont like their current sound haha)

i think their live dvds are just amazing. but i wish their fanclub was in the US too... the stuff ive seen fomr Blitz 5 Days and Despair in the Womb is some of the best footage i've ever seen of them. but gawwwdddd i love It Withers and Withers, and Code of Vulgar[ism], and 5 Ugly Kindgom. all so amazing.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on September 28, 2007, 02:23:58 AM
LMFAO xD that is almost as good as the scary version ...even though nothing beats the scary version...still i busted a gut

oh and my favorite was blitz 5 days ^^
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on September 28, 2007, 04:41:17 AM
I own the knot version of blitz , and I've only watched the discs with gauze and macabre songs. I have never taken the dvds out of the package for the other ones. I have no intrest in watching them.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on September 28, 2007, 07:00:02 AM
I was a little disappointed when I saw Dir en grey live and they played the exact same show as they did on It Withers and Withers. They play the same show every time.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on September 28, 2007, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: PrismSub7 on September 28, 2007, 02:18:55 AM
The fries are hot and long
The hamburgers are deep and wide
I'll memorize it in my moleskine, thx :D
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 28, 2007, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: 마왕 on September 28, 2007, 04:41:17 AM
I own the knot version of blitz , and I've only watched the discs with gauze and macabre songs. I have never taken the dvds out of the package for the other ones. I have no intrest in watching them.

so that means you want to sell it to me and not your other friend person, right?


Quote from: clobberingtyme on September 28, 2007, 07:00:02 AM
I was a little disappointed when I saw Dir en grey live and they played the exact same show as they did on It Withers and Withers. They play the same show every time.

i've seen them 3 times and theres only been 3 songs that they played all 3 times, and there was quite a lot they only played 1 out of the 3 times i've seen them. i saw them at Family Values, Inward Scream 07, and Tour 07 Marrow of a Bone/ Deftones tour and i've gotten a good variety of different songs each time.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on September 30, 2007, 11:38:09 PM
d00ds. sample of Dozing Green on their site. its only like 10 seconds, but that sure beats 0 seconds.

2 minutes in heaven is better than 1 minute in heaven baby.

im digging it. well, the 10 seconds.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on September 30, 2007, 11:56:37 PM
Quote from: nekki_chibi on September 27, 2007, 10:32:01 PM
I'd better like McDonalds CM based on Agitated Screams of Maggots PV footage.

Yes. Animated Diru heads zipping around a McFlurry. They're the newest topping!

As for action figures/dolls, why does the Shaving Ken doll come to mind? I can see it now..you have a doll of Kaoru, and when you add cold water to his tiny little sponge razor and 'shave' his chin, bye bye beard.

On a more serious note: That sample definitely convinced me to preorder. xD
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 01, 2007, 12:33:20 AM
yea it sounds secy as hell... O.O i am pleased
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on October 01, 2007, 02:10:26 AM
I never listen to samples. I thought it was a lame idea when it was 30 seconds, but ten? Pshhh.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 01, 2007, 02:31:53 AM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 01, 2007, 12:33:20 AM
yea it sounds secy as hell... O.O i am pleased

yeah its a little more "jrock" to please those who thought all the heavy engrish on Marrow was just filler hahaha.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: zombie8mylunch on October 02, 2007, 01:29:19 PM
diru is one of those bands i never get tired of and i really hope they don't fuck things up with their music....... they should keep it like it is........
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on October 02, 2007, 05:05:01 PM
10 seconds doesn't give me any sort of idea. it should be 30s.

Soup Bone had a couple ( as in two ) songs that we ok. I will get the new albums like always and will hope that it is remotely passable.

Me personally they are releasing too much stuff too fast. I'd rather have one album every 2 - 3 years , that usually means that there was a whole lot of work and edits put into it.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 02, 2007, 08:28:59 PM
you know i was thinking... Dozing Green, the production of how the instruments sound make it sound like they recorded it in the same session as Marrow. i just think that the way the vocals, guitars, and drums are recorded make it sound like its from the album. anyone else feel that way? but im sure when we hear more than 10 seconds of the chorus it will probably have this weird style that wasnt noted in Marrow.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 02, 2007, 09:29:58 PM
QuoteMe personally they are releasing too much stuff too fast. I'd rather have one album every 2 - 3 years , that usually means that there was a whole lot of work and edits put into it.

It's not as bad as MUCC, they release crap almost every other month. It's horrible, and  by the same singles over and over again, it shows theyre running outta ideas.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 02, 2007, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: Karasu on October 02, 2007, 09:29:58 PM
QuoteMe personally they are releasing too much stuff too fast. I'd rather have one album every 2 - 3 years , that usually means that there was a whole lot of work and edits put into it.

It's not as bad as MUCC, they release crap almost every other month. It's horrible, and  by the same singles over and over again, it shows theyre running outta ideas.

they're slowing down a little bit now. this year has been..the two 2 singles, and a live album. but they still are releasing their new single this month and a new crazy dvd. but thats better than when they released like...a single, a mini-album, a live dvd, and another single all 4 months in a row.

a band who releases stuff REALLLLY fast is Nightmare. this year has been a new album, a new single, a live dvd, another new single is out tomorrow, and another single is gonna be out next month. expect another new cd soon hahah.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on October 03, 2007, 03:27:10 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 02, 2007, 08:28:59 PM
you know i was thinking... Dozing Green, the production of how the instruments sound make it sound like they recorded it in the same session as Marrow. i just think that the way the vocals, guitars, and drums are recorded make it sound like its from the album. anyone else feel that way? but im sure when we hear more than 10 seconds of the chorus it will probably have this weird style that wasnt noted in Marrow.

I noticed it too. o_o Maybe it's just that it was recorded in the same studio under similar settings, unlike, for example, the single version of Ryoujoku no Ame (recorded in a studio in Germany) with a different 'sound' to it.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 03, 2007, 03:37:32 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 02, 2007, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: Karasu on October 02, 2007, 09:29:58 PM
QuoteMe personally they are releasing too much stuff too fast. I'd rather have one album every 2 - 3 years , that usually means that there was a whole lot of work and edits put into it.

It's not as bad as MUCC, they release crap almost every other month. It's horrible, and  by the same singles over and over again, it shows theyre running outta ideas.

they're slowing down a little bit now. this year has been..the two 2 singles, and a live album. but they still are releasing their new single this month and a new crazy dvd. but thats better than when they released like...a single, a mini-album, a live dvd, and another single all 4 months in a row.

a band who releases stuff REALLLLY fast is Nightmare. this year has been a new album, a new single, a live dvd, another new single is out tomorrow, and another single is gonna be out next month. expect another new cd soon hahah.




If anything, I think Dir en grey has chilled out with the releases. They were psycho back in 2002/2003 with releases, but they've calmed down a lot nowadays.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 03, 2007, 07:56:40 AM
Quote from: ObscureWarumono on October 03, 2007, 03:27:10 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 02, 2007, 08:28:59 PM
you know i was thinking... Dozing Green, the production of how the instruments sound make it sound like they recorded it in the same session as Marrow. i just think that the way the vocals, guitars, and drums are recorded make it sound like its from the album. anyone else feel that way? but im sure when we hear more than 10 seconds of the chorus it will probably have this weird style that wasnt noted in Marrow.

I noticed it too. o_o Maybe it's just that it was recorded in the same studio under similar settings, unlike, for example, the single version of Ryoujoku no Ame (recorded in a studio in Germany) with a different 'sound' to it.

Yeah i was thinking they just had it under the same settings and such as when recording The Marrow. and on the topic of Ryoujoku no Ame, i hate it when people refer to the Marrow version as a re-recording (not that im saying you were saying this, i dont even know if you did). the drums and vocals were changed. the guitar is literally the same recorded guitar from the single. its nowhere near the complete re-recording of Clever Sleazoid. the level of difference between the single and album versions is like the same as it was for Child Prey.


Quote from: Karasu on October 03, 2007, 03:37:32 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 02, 2007, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: Karasu on October 02, 2007, 09:29:58 PM
QuoteMe personally they are releasing too much stuff too fast. I'd rather have one album every 2 - 3 years , that usually means that there was a whole lot of work and edits put into it.

It's not as bad as MUCC, they release crap almost every other month. It's horrible, and  by the same singles over and over again, it shows theyre running outta ideas.

they're slowing down a little bit now. this year has been..the two 2 singles, and a live album. but they still are releasing their new single this month and a new crazy dvd. but thats better than when they released like...a single, a mini-album, a live dvd, and another single all 4 months in a row.

a band who releases stuff REALLLLY fast is Nightmare. this year has been a new album, a new single, a live dvd, another new single is out tomorrow, and another single is gonna be out next month. expect another new cd soon hahah.

If anything, I think Dir en grey has chilled out with the releases. They were psycho back in 2002/2003 with releases, but they've calmed down a lot nowadays.

yeah, Diru has really calmed down with their releases, especially compared to the pace of newer bands. Diru releases stuff like as steadily as an american band does, but they just have the singles in between to keep the fans from being bored. they dont even release dvds all that often. i really want another live concert dvd, but im not expecting one until like another single is out. but i really want to see one with all the songs from The Marrow live. and i want another PV dvd, but they've only had like 5 videos since Average Fury & Average Psycho, so they probably wont have another one until the next album.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 03, 2007, 09:16:19 AM
I'm hoping the next live DVD is in America or a culmination of some of the concerts in America.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on October 03, 2007, 01:58:18 PM
I will give deg this , at least they do follow up singles with albums. I despises bands whose whole catalog is allllll singles and random compilations and crap. *cough*mostvkbands*cough*

Cleaver Sleazoid on the album was 10xs better than the single version. I actually liked the album version. I thought the single was amazingly awful , but I'll take that single over the complete entirety of the Soup Bone album.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 03, 2007, 10:43:01 PM
Quote from: Karasu on October 03, 2007, 09:16:19 AM
I'm hoping the next live DVD is in America or a culmination of some of the concerts in America.

that would be interesting, but i dont see it happening. for the dvds they usually film big shows from japan, and they have yet to do a show in the US the size of one they have done in japan. i'd choose a dvd from Nippon Budokan over any american venue anyday. however, it would be cool to see a jrock dvd with moshing in it.

oh and 마왕, why do you call it Soup Bone???
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on October 03, 2007, 11:13:28 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 03, 2007, 10:43:01 PM
Quote from: Karasu on October 03, 2007, 09:16:19 AM
I'm hoping the next live DVD is in America or a culmination of some of the concerts in America.
oh and 마왕, why do you call it Soup Bone???

Mainly because I think it's a silly title. Anything I don't care for  I usually convert the name into something to ammuse me more. Kinda like how I call WTD( withering ) 'wtf' . Those two are my least favorite albums by them , so I never use the correct titles.

It's not really directed twoards anyone or anything. It's just a habit of mine. I do it to almost every band. Another example is Metallicas St.Anger. I call it 'St.we should of stopped'.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Tsunetako on October 03, 2007, 11:50:32 PM
How hilarious, wacky and original! You go girl!
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 04, 2007, 12:52:23 AM
Quote from: 마왕 on October 03, 2007, 11:13:28 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 03, 2007, 10:43:01 PM
Quote from: Karasu on October 03, 2007, 09:16:19 AM
I'm hoping the next live DVD is in America or a culmination of some of the concerts in America.
oh and 마왕, why do you call it Soup Bone???

Mainly because I think it's a silly title. Anything I don't care for  I usually convert the name into something to ammuse me more. Kinda like how I call WTD( withering ) 'wtf' . Those two are my least favorite albums by them , so I never use the correct titles.

It's not really directed twoards anyone or anything. It's just a habit of mine. I do it to almost every band. Another example is Metallicas St.Anger. I call it 'St.we should of stopped'.

i call St Anger "St Trashcan"
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on October 04, 2007, 01:56:34 AM
It was an alright album , it just wasn't Metallica.

At any rate , Hopefully the next album will be decent. I can't judge a song with 10 seconds. I thought Ame was one of the better newer songs so I had high hopes for the album.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 04, 2007, 08:33:55 AM
Quote from: 마왕 on October 04, 2007, 01:56:34 AM
At any rate , Hopefully the next album will be decent. I can't judge a song with 10 seconds. I thought Ame was one of the better newer songs so I had high hopes for the album.

i think even though "soup bone" wasnt mostly songs that the jrock fans were into, it still had some songs that they could appreciate, like Conceived Sorrow and The Pledge. as for me, hell, i like every song on it.  ;D
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 04, 2007, 12:12:40 PM
QuoteMainly because I think it's a silly title. Anything I don't care for  I usually convert the name into something to ammuse me more. Kinda like how I call WTD( withering ) 'wtf' . Those two are my least favorite albums by them , so I never use the correct titles.
NOT LESS THAN FABULOUS
you're my hero
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on October 04, 2007, 01:42:04 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 04, 2007, 08:33:55 AM
Quote from: 마왕 on October 04, 2007, 01:56:34 AM
At any rate , Hopefully the next album will be decent. I can't judge a song with 10 seconds. I thought Ame was one of the better newer songs so I had high hopes for the album.

i think even though "soup bone" wasnt mostly songs that the jrock fans were into, it still had some songs that they could appreciate, like Conceived Sorrow and The Pledge. as for me, hell, i like every song on it.  ;D

I don't think for me it's the 'jrock' appeal. I just don't like Kyo's screaming voice as much as I love his singing voice. I love heavy music , the faster the better. I just wish he'd mix up his vocals more and stop screaming nearly as much. Other than that , I still listen to most of the stuff. I just happen to skip 90% of the last couple of the albums in the cd player. I do remember liking The Pledge thinking it was one of the better songs.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 04, 2007, 04:55:41 PM
I'm surprised you didn't Like Agitated Screams of Maggots Arch. The riffage was pretty cool, and it was definitely a fast song.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 04, 2007, 05:16:46 PM
i agree i like him singing more but at the same time i don't mind the screaming really all that much(which is strange because in most cases i would but it kind of fits the songs for me so i don't mind i so much). plus for me the best thing about TMOAB were the guitars anyway...they were so awesome. *drools*

oh but i was wondering arch why don't you really like withering to death though? it doesn't have nearly as much screaming as Marrow and well even the songs that kind of do like garbage were pretty cool. ='[
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 04, 2007, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 04, 2007, 05:16:46 PM
plus for me the best thing about TMOAB were the guitars anyway...they were so awesome. *drools*

oh but i was wondering arch why don't you really like withering to death though? it doesn't have nearly as much screaming as Marrow and well even the songs that kind of do like garbage were pretty cool. ='[

when i first heard Marrow i couldnt tell if the guitars sounded really bad or really good. so after i listened to it like twice straight through, i realized how amazing the recorded sound of the guitars sound. there needs to be more heavy albums with that...crunch and grind that the guitars on Marrow have.

oh and as for WTD and the balance of singing and screaming... and i think that could make it potentially their best album vocal wise. but i mean, iMo WTD could be their best all around album...
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 05, 2007, 04:10:04 AM
Kyo really streches his vocal ability in that album, he reaches falsettos like its no big deal. Hes like Matt Bellamy from Muse in that way. I'm sure Kyo said in an interview he was influenced by Muse.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 05, 2007, 04:31:01 AM
WTD is my second favorite album after kisou =] (okay i lie sometimes it changes btw vulgar and WTD but atm and for awhile now it's been WTD) where as on TMOAB i focus mostly on the amazing guitar work ...WTD i can focus on the amazingness of the band as whole. and yes Kyo does some wicked stuff on that record i really liked it =]
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 05, 2007, 06:11:22 AM
Quote from: Karasu on October 05, 2007, 04:10:04 AM
I'm sure Kyo said in an interview he was influenced by Muse.

thats cool. its fucking rare to hear people in japanese bands actually naming their influences. its really a shame when they say "oh it just comes from myself" because in all honesty, its the things you like that make who you are. does anyone know what other bands and such Dir en grey have said they are into and that have influenced them? i know Kyo likes Buck-Tick, and i think as a whole they all like X-Japan and Luna Sea (duh), but i havent heard about any other bands they like.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 05, 2007, 06:14:05 AM
kyo admires kiyoharu i believe
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 05, 2007, 08:48:36 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 05, 2007, 06:14:05 AM
kyo admires kiyoharu i believe

oh right i think i knew that one too. and im sure Toshiya is probably inspired by J, considering he crafted the world of jrock bass playing haha.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on October 06, 2007, 02:54:00 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 05, 2007, 08:48:36 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 05, 2007, 06:14:05 AM
kyo admires kiyoharu i believe

oh right i think i knew that one too. and im sure Toshiya is probably inspired by J, considering he crafted the world of jrock bass playing haha.

Kyo had said in an interview that he likes Joy Division..though I'm not sure if they're an influence, since I can't remember the source and I've only heard about two songs. xD
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on October 06, 2007, 01:38:00 PM
Quote from: ObscureWarumono on October 06, 2007, 02:54:00 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 05, 2007, 08:48:36 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 05, 2007, 06:14:05 AM
kyo admires kiyoharu i believe

oh right i think i knew that one too. and im sure Toshiya is probably inspired by J, considering he crafted the world of jrock bass playing haha.

Kyo had said in an interview that he likes Joy Division..though I'm not sure if they're an influence, since I can't remember the source and I've only heard about two songs. xD

Joy Division is awesome. He wins props for that.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: mjmclean on October 07, 2007, 04:48:09 PM
I heard that they took a lot of inspiration from stuff like korn and linkin park... that must be why their last album was kinda bleah.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 07, 2007, 05:33:12 PM
Quote from: mjmclean on October 07, 2007, 04:48:09 PM
I heard that they took a lot of inspiration from stuff like korn and linkin park... that must be why their last album was kinda bleah.

well theyve never said themselves that they have been influenced by them, but i think its safe to assume that there was some influence on their newest record from the bands on Family Values tour. for example, Lie Buried With a Vengeance was written after they came back from family values, and it sounds similar to Bury Your Dead's style and i've seen Kaoru and Die wearing Bury Your Dead shirts. but theres also the fact that atleast almost half the record was already written before that. their 3 singles, Fatal Believer, and Conceived Sorrow had all been written before playing on Family Values tour. and i think on the special Marrow of a Bone site, within their notes on the songs, they mention what they wrote before and after the tour, and like what was written not too long after Withering.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 07, 2007, 05:49:58 PM
Quote from: mjmclean on October 07, 2007, 04:48:09 PM
I heard that they took a lot of inspiration from stuff like korn and linkin park... that must be why their last album was kinda bleah.

yea i don't think they've ever said that ... i think that may just be fan speculation or w.e >_>

i think what signal said is more right
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on October 07, 2007, 08:57:33 PM
I don't think they are influenced by KoRn at all. Me being a long time korn fan ( say what you will ) , I don't hear anything that remotely reminds me of them at all. I'll agree that's it's fan speculation.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 07, 2007, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: 마왕 on October 07, 2007, 08:57:33 PM
I don't think they are influenced by KoRn at all. Me being a long time korn fan ( say what you will ) , I don't hear anything that remotely reminds me of them at all. I'll agree that's it's fan speculation.

yeah i mean.. i guess Rotting Root and Repition of Hatred kindof hint at it, but not all that much.

and why dont i see "Danger High Voltage" by Electric Six in your signature playlist?!??!
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on October 07, 2007, 11:03:51 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 07, 2007, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: 마왕 on October 07, 2007, 08:57:33 PM
I don't think they are influenced by KoRn at all. Me being a long time korn fan ( say what you will ) , I don't hear anything that remotely reminds me of them at all. I'll agree that's it's fan speculation.

yeah i mean.. i guess Rotting Root and Repition of Hatred kindof hint at it, but not all that much.

and why dont i see "Danger High Voltage" by Electric Six in your signature playlist?!??!

Because my playlist is the new album that's due out the 9th. Danger High Voltage is on Fire. I have listened to that cd way too much. =3

Fire in the disco Fire in the taco bell Fire in the disco Fire in the gates of
hell Don't you want to know how we keep starting fires? ...
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 08, 2007, 01:52:34 AM
The only time I could ever hear a possible KoRn influence is Die's beginning notes in Obscure. That sounds like something KoRn could do. Other than that, I dont hear an influence by them at all.


Arch, I still listen to Issues. Best album they have done. lol.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: mjmclean on October 16, 2007, 09:43:12 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 07, 2007, 05:49:58 PM
Quote from: mjmclean on October 07, 2007, 04:48:09 PM
I heard that they took a lot of inspiration from stuff like korn and linkin park... that must be why their last album was kinda bleah.

yea i don't think they've ever said that ... i think that may just be fan speculation or w.e >_>

i think what signal said is more right

Okay... I didn't know about that. From what I heard, it came straight from their mouths, but that may have just been the rumour-mill churning away. ;D

Just over a week until the single!
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 17, 2007, 01:20:53 AM
hm. i still need to preorder this. but i wont have the money until friday. well then.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 18, 2007, 07:51:34 AM
theres a PV clip on their site of the same portion of the song their previous clip had. but this time in video form! looks cool to me.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 18, 2007, 09:39:25 AM
It seems to be filmed as great as Vulgar promotion videos
Reminds of Obscure at some point
and I like the imagery of dolls, both with band's presentation
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 18, 2007, 01:38:45 PM
^ yea i was thinking the same. it looks pretty cool ^^
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 18, 2007, 05:28:09 PM
anyone expect when this single will hit the forum? probably only like a day or two before its release? maybe ON the day of its release?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on October 18, 2007, 08:52:11 PM
Who knows, it could be out in two days or it could be as stubborn as stacked rubbish was and be posted the day of the actual release.  I have 'dozing green' on my Soulseek wishlist so if it pops up while i'm away, i'll know that someone/some forum has it.  ;D

The video clip is pretty cool, it kind of reminds me of Kodou without the warehouse scenery.  It's probably all they could pull together quickly from touring so much this year. xD;;
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 19, 2007, 12:17:41 AM
the style of the video reminds me of their indie stuff.  it should be awesome.  i cant wait to see the whole thing.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on October 19, 2007, 02:14:18 AM
It's ten seconds long ffs
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 19, 2007, 05:42:30 AM
Quote from: clobberingtyme on October 19, 2007, 02:14:18 AM
It's fifteen seconds long ffs

fixed.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 19, 2007, 10:54:16 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 18, 2007, 05:28:09 PM
anyone expect when this single will hit the forum? probably only like a day or two before its release? maybe ON the day of its release?
it could leak earlier but I don't really care, I mostly want PV to be released in fucking normal TV-quality, not like those 320*240 wmv rips of R-oku no ame and grief.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 19, 2007, 07:22:35 PM
new song...uhh...YES?!
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on October 19, 2007, 11:19:49 PM
^ Shit in a hat, it's amazing.

Even with the low quality for now, it's going on repeat for quite awhile today. xD Kyo's voice is amazingly powerful and I love how near the end the whole song just seems to change around 1:35ish. Oh, and right when you think it's ending the last 20 seconds are all crazy-screaming. Makes me want the rest of the single even more if that's possible. xD *impressed*
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 20, 2007, 12:50:47 AM
oh god the song is amazing I had it on repeat during the whole 3 hour train ride home xD it's just freaken beautiful i can't wait for the whole single ^^;
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 20, 2007, 06:22:17 AM
I'm so confused, when the hell did this song get leaked? lmao.



It's definitely a good song. Great riffing going on, and I really like that echo note Kyo holds around the middle of the song.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on October 20, 2007, 07:52:53 AM
Quote from: Karasu on October 20, 2007, 06:22:17 AM
I'm so confused, when the hell did this song get leaked? lmao.

I heard something about it being on barks.jp (or a similar kind of site?), and someone just ripped it from there. I doubt anyone has the actual single yet though.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 22, 2007, 09:03:11 PM
Yea, this entire single reeks of amazingness. Dozing Green sounds better, and it's longer. Hydra -666- is not even the same song, but it's equally just as great as Dozing Green, if not better than it. Agitated live was really really good. Finally, I hear a chant that's not over-flooded by people screaming.


Man, I am glad I pre-ordered this.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on October 23, 2007, 01:08:22 AM
*shock*

I'm impressed. Dozing Green with better quality wins. It'll be one hell of a song to hear live, but it'll be interesting to see how Kyo will possibly go about re-creating the four girly screams at the end. >_____> I was expecting Hydra -666- to be butchered to the degree that the album version of Clever Sleazoid was on TMOAB, but that wasn't the case at all. *_* Asom live was good too, with the interesting intro leading up to the actual song.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 23, 2007, 04:08:10 AM
Dozing Green - absolutely amazing
Hydra 666 - i like the original A LOT more, but this one isnt too bad, i like the ripshit screaming, i just think it feels empty as hell and slower without the throbbing techno.
ASOM live - the intro is really really cool...
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 23, 2007, 06:14:02 AM
Great single, I didn't expect THAT much from Hydra-666- honestly
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 23, 2007, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: nekki_chibi on October 23, 2007, 06:14:02 AM
Great single, I didn't expect THAT much from Hydra-666- honestly

well they did "reimagine it into a totally new song" or some shit like that.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Raon on October 24, 2007, 02:18:51 AM
i was taken aback by the new single. i didnt think they had it in them this far in the game, but i was thoroughly surprised.  dozing green is amazing and somehow reminded my of older heavy songs they did, but still kept that new sound.  really good single and will make for a truly epic live.

also, it is just me, or does Kyo do orgasmic monk chants?.....
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 24, 2007, 06:53:05 AM
oh yes i never did say what i thought...

well yes the single version is better then the earlier leaked version...very awesome
I like this version of hydra more but tehn again i never liked the original hydra
and lastly i had no expectation for the live tracks because i usual don't listen to them anyway but this one was really really good

yea...
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: godhunters on October 24, 2007, 07:41:09 AM
hhmmmm........i think since much say that it is rather good...i really cant wait to hear it.....
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 24, 2007, 06:53:50 PM
dozing green PV is fucking tasteless
I have no idea why did they throw in one plate all those manga spots (LOL LOOK WAPANESE VIDEO?),
the only actual moments I liked were with band at sepium bg and dolls
the rest of video is pointless and cheap
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 24, 2007, 07:16:59 PM
aww i liked it xD

i thought is was pretty cool and i like that the performance scenes don't look so movie-ish but kind of like watching a live. the manga parts weren't that big soo i don't think it makes much of a difference. i agree it looks low budgety but i think that's part of the charm.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 24, 2007, 07:18:31 PM
Where'd you guys see the new video?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 24, 2007, 07:31:40 PM
lol it's everywhere...infact it's up here for download too ...i personally took it from kerrang!'s site.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 24, 2007, 08:44:57 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 24, 2007, 07:16:59 PM
i agree it looks low budgety but i think that's part of the charm.
it is not, imho
because it's second cheap video from them
Grief was awful and now this
and, fuck, I really expected a not-worse-than-obscure PV, why did they thrown _this_ out!!! T_T
(disappointed to hell)
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 24, 2007, 08:58:13 PM
well i agree with grief Pv being bad xD i only watched it once and that was enough.

Quoteand, fuck, I really expected a not-worse-than-obscure PV, why did they thrown _this_ out!!! T_T

I'm not sure what you mean by that though >.<
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on October 24, 2007, 11:42:51 PM
Skeletons and centipedes and helecopters oh my. >_> What was all that?
At least the parts with Diru playing were good, and the doll thing at least made some sort of sense.

They really need to learn LIGHTING = GOOD. And Kyo needs to get the hair out of his eyes.
With a song like that I had imagined the pv to be some sort of amazing creation with well-done cutscenes and a really epic set. But no, that's what happens when they're touring so much.

And I could have sworn that I've seen a manga drawn in the same style once before, which is strange because I'm really not into anime/manga much at all. It looked really familiar though.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: ghostface on October 25, 2007, 12:53:39 AM
I actually like Grief PV. It has some great shots of the band, I can totally picture them in my mind as I'm typing this. Even if they lasted like a split second, and I only watched the video a few times, they stood out to me as uber cool. Yeah, I love the editing in this video.

I still haven't listened to the new single. Waiting for my copy :)
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 25, 2007, 06:53:10 AM
i love the new video. and i thought Grief was mad cool too. i really want them to make another PV dvd soon, but i think they've only done like 5 or 6 videos since Average Fury & Average Psycho.  they did.... dead tree (which probably wouldnt be on it anyway since its on IWAW bootlegged), Clever Sleazoid, Ryoujoku no Ame, ASOM, Grief, and Dozing Green. yeah... we'd have to wait until more singles another album for one.

who else hopes they make a new live dvd soon? i really wanna see one with all the songs from The Marrow live, even though they'd have to do another big show where they play them all, because im pretty sure their more recent shows have had a good mixture of new and old songs. It Withers and Withers and Code of Vulgar[ism] were such amazing live dvds, they need to make one to that caliber with all the new songs.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on October 25, 2007, 07:27:09 AM
A new live dvd would be nice. I'd especially love to see Dozing Green, The Pledge, and Namamekashiki Ansoku, Tamerai ni Hohoemi. *__* Have they even played Namamekashiki at any recent lives?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 25, 2007, 08:49:27 AM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 24, 2007, 08:58:13 PM
Quoteand, fuck, I really expected a not-worse-than-obscure PV, why did they thrown _this_ out!!! T_T

I'm not sure what you mean by that though >.<
you know, that 15-seconds preview was so promising
simply because the best of footage was introduced
and the rest of the video is filmed much worse.
Obscure was great in terms of production - great direction, cinefilm instead of digital cameras for filming, blah blah blah
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 01:23:40 PM
Okay so I still hate the song but, to me, the video was semi-good. A 'good video' to me is one where you can understand what the band is trying to show you. I get the whole political aspect to it, but then they threw in random crap that just confused the hell out of me, like the manga/comic/whatever bits. I mean why did they include the big sphincter with teeth that ate Boba Fett? And I've definitely seen the whole 'playing in a room full of screens' thing before...though I can't remember whose video it was in.

Now, is it just the lighting or are all of them actually blond? That part scared me.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 25, 2007, 01:38:04 PM
BTW I wonder who is their current video director
It seems that Hiroyuki Kondo is no more in action
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 25, 2007, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: nekki_chibi on October 25, 2007, 08:49:27 AM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 24, 2007, 08:58:13 PM
Quoteand, fuck, I really expected a not-worse-than-obscure PV, why did they thrown _this_ out!!! T_T

I'm not sure what you mean by that though >.<
you know, that 15-seconds preview was so promising
simply because the best of footage was introduced
and the rest of the video is filmed much worse.
Obscure was great in terms of production - great direction, cinefilm instead of digital cameras for filming, blah blah blah

ok i understand now

and fangy ...people where saying it was like a Tool video so maybe that's who...and lol that scared me too but they all are now except for kaoru and toshiya...die's a blond now joining kyo and shinya

Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 07:31:05 PM
Hmm I know it wasn't a Tool video I saw it in, but I guess if it was in one of their videos too then it's even more unoriginal than I thought. Not saying that Tool is unoriginal, just the whole screen thing.

Die...blond...? That doesn't work in my head. I mean I saw it, but it's just...weird.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 25, 2007, 07:50:02 PM
meh i wouldn't know...i don't really watch a lot of music videos but i do have a feeling i have sen it before too xD

and yea i know ...i did a double take like "who the hell is that?" XD
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 25, 2007, 07:50:02 PM
and yea i know ...i did a double take like "who the hell is that?" XD

Haha yeah me too, only it was more like "wtf Shinya plays guitar too?" O.o
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on October 25, 2007, 08:14:12 PM
lmfao xD
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 25, 2007, 08:47:36 PM
he was blonde when i saw them play with the Deftones back in june.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 08:59:17 PM
Uhh okay? Congratulations?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 25, 2007, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 08:59:17 PM
Uhh okay? Congratulations?

dipshit, my point is, this isnt a new thing, he was blonde 4 months ago.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on October 26, 2007, 04:20:09 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 25, 2007, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 08:59:17 PM
Uhh okay? Congratulations?

dipshit, my point is, this isnt a new thing, he was blonde 4 months ago.

I don't know what your problem is, but nobody said it was a new thing.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Karasu on October 26, 2007, 06:36:47 AM
Ok in all honesty...who cares what color their hair is. Aren't we being a little vain and childish still worrying about their looks? Can we move on from the subject of hair color.


Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 26, 2007, 08:18:51 AM
Quote from: fangy89 on October 26, 2007, 04:20:09 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 25, 2007, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 08:59:17 PM
Uhh okay? Congratulations?

dipshit, my point is, this isnt a new thing, he was blonde 4 months ago.

I don't know what your problem is, but nobody said it was a new thing.

Quote from: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 25, 2007, 07:50:02 PM
and yea i know ...i did a double take like "who the hell is that?" XD

Haha yeah me too, only it was more like "wtf Shinya plays guitar too?" O.o

well im so sorry that were you so suprised. just wanted to give some background information since it concerned you oh so much. next time i'll take my fingers away from the keyboard before i strike another one of your nerves. im sorry if i came off as bragging, im not the type, i just wanted to inform you, i didnt know you'd get so offended.  ::)
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 凸(。☉౪ ⊙。)▁▇▀▀▀~~~卍 on October 26, 2007, 09:12:38 AM
the self mutilation she commits on herself messes with her brain and mind, dont be too harsh on her. I think it causes chemical imbalances too...
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on October 26, 2007, 01:59:35 PM
Quote from: ramrod on October 26, 2007, 09:12:38 AM
the self mutilation she commits on herself messes with her brain and mind, dont be too harsh on her. I think it causes chemical imbalances too...

Ya totally! Years of rape and abuse was just way too boring, so I had to find something to keep me occupied. It really is a fun hobby!  :D
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: fangy89 on October 26, 2007, 02:04:31 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 26, 2007, 08:18:51 AM
Quote from: fangy89 on October 26, 2007, 04:20:09 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on October 25, 2007, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 08:59:17 PM
Uhh okay? Congratulations?

dipshit, my point is, this isnt a new thing, he was blonde 4 months ago.

I don't know what your problem is, but nobody said it was a new thing.

Quote from: fangy89 on October 25, 2007, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on October 25, 2007, 07:50:02 PM
and yea i know ...i did a double take like "who the hell is that?" XD

Haha yeah me too, only it was more like "wtf Shinya plays guitar too?" O.o

well im so sorry that were you so suprised. just wanted to give some background information since it concerned you oh so much. next time i'll take my fingers away from the keyboard before i strike another one of your nerves. im sorry if i came off as bragging, im not the type, i just wanted to inform you, i didnt know you'd get so offended.  ::)

I was just trying to mess around and be stupid, but I guess my unusual sense of humor doesn't translate well online. And calling me names doesn't strike any of my nerves, since I've been called much worse over the 'all-powerful' internet. So yes, this can be dropped.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: ghostface on November 02, 2007, 02:46:09 PM
Wow, Dozing Green is amazing. I love the song-writing in this song, there's so much texture to the guitars, it's awesome. And I'm very impressed with the range of screams and noises Kyo has come up for this song, his singing is beautiful too. I love the eerie effect of repeating the same high-pitched scream at the end.

Hydra 666 owns. I like how they recreated this song, it's better than any remix could ever be.

ASoM live - great intro and an awesome performance but the vocal is very indistinct, it's annoying.

Quote from: 悪者 on October 24, 2007, 11:42:51 PMI had imagined the pv to be some sort of amazing creation with well-done cutscenes and a really epic set.

I think the PV was trying to be anything but that. I love the result. It's different than most videos. I agree with Do As Eternity on this, simple effects are part of its charm and I like the live-quality of the video.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 02, 2007, 03:19:09 PM
possible the best part of this single is how he now knows to pronounce "daughter" correctly in Agitated Screams of Maggots.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on June 14, 2008, 03:21:44 AM
the OHP is saying new single to be released September 10th called Glass Skin.

lets hope its as good as the last one.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 琴乃 on June 24, 2008, 02:04:03 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on June 14, 2008, 03:21:44 AM
the OHP is saying new single to be released September 10th called Glass Skin.

lets hope its as good as the last one.

I hope it's better than Dozing green.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on June 24, 2008, 02:37:09 AM
Quote from: 琴乃 on June 24, 2008, 02:04:03 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on June 14, 2008, 03:21:44 AM
the OHP is saying new single to be released September 10th called Glass Skin.

lets hope its as good as the last one.

I hope it's better than Dozing green.

I hope it's the greatest piece of music ever created.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on June 24, 2008, 07:34:05 AM
Quote from: 琴乃 on June 24, 2008, 02:04:03 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on June 14, 2008, 03:21:44 AM
the OHP is saying new single to be released September 10th called Glass Skin.

lets hope its as good as the last one.

I hope it's better than Dozing green.

you say that as if Dozing Green was bad.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on June 24, 2008, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on June 24, 2008, 07:34:05 AM
Quote from: 琴乃 on June 24, 2008, 02:04:03 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on June 14, 2008, 03:21:44 AM
the OHP is saying new single to be released September 10th called Glass Skin.

lets hope its as good as the last one.

I hope it's better than Dozing green.

you say that as if Dozing Green was bad.

you say that as if Dir en Grety wasn't bad
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Limpam on June 26, 2008, 11:22:44 PM
You that as if Dir en grey was bad.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on June 26, 2008, 11:47:16 PM
As that you was Dir grey if en bad.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on June 27, 2008, 04:23:16 AM
 Dir en grey as if sucks my balls long time
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on June 27, 2008, 07:59:51 AM
Quote from: ناتهم واسلحة وأكواب نحاسيةق.م. إستبدلت الأختامصال بحضارلمناط on June 27, 2008, 04:23:16 AM
Dir en grey as if sucks my balls long time

wait what bands do you even like?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on June 27, 2008, 08:36:27 AM
Mmm
Village people
Chris Crocker, covering Britney Spears
probably George Michael
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on June 27, 2008, 09:07:30 AM
nice taste nekki.

i like visual kei bands like Backstreet boysa, alice nice, nsync, gazete,  5ive, miyavee, my chemical romance, and of course Dir en Gruy!

best visual videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=godZE9HjCt0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5XOjnpX3-w
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on June 27, 2008, 11:29:57 AM
srs dicuzzin: Did someone happen to bring professional recording equipment to the hide Memorial Summit and record Dir en grey playing Miscast? I [REQ] that. I promise "thanks" (1).
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on June 28, 2008, 04:15:03 AM
Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5XOjnpX3-w
wow dat's amazing
even bettar than miyuwee and kavuki boyz
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on June 28, 2008, 05:01:31 AM
Quote from: Username on June 27, 2008, 11:29:57 AM
srs dicuzzin: Did someone happen to bring professional recording equipment to the hide Memorial Summit and record Dir en grey playing Miscast? I [REQ] that. I promise "thanks" (1).

if you're actually serious, no, theres no recording of it, that part was cut from their televised performance.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on July 07, 2008, 02:20:05 AM
some info on their new single you can see on their site www.direngrey.co.jp (http://www.direngrey.co.jp)

(http://www.direngrey.co.jp/image/headline/glass.jpg)

tracklist-
1. GLASS SKIN
2. undecided
3. AGITATED SCREAMS OF MAGGOTS -UNPLUGGED-
4. Ryoujoku no Ame (LIVE at YOKOHAMA BLITZ on May 23, 2008)

looks like 'undecided' will be a refreshed version, similiar to Hydra -666-, to better fit their current sound. but i wonder what ASOM "unplugged" is supposed to sound like. probably screaming over just ambient noise or something. i dont think Dir en grey really understands the meaning behind "unplugged" as we saw from the version of Conceived Sorrow on the Marrow bonus disc, so i dont really know what to expect.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on July 07, 2008, 03:59:50 AM
It's a nigga!
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on July 07, 2008, 07:24:15 AM
Quote from: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on July 07, 2008, 03:59:50 AM
It's a nigga!

...rrrright.

annnywayssss...
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on July 07, 2008, 08:15:07 AM
Well it is. Ain't no denying that, signal.
It is a nigro. Dir en BLACK NIGGA NIG!
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on July 08, 2008, 02:32:39 PM
racism is retarded. its retarded to be my age and still hear it around from my peers. grow up.

but seriously, if we're on the topic of KFC, the best thing to get is the mashed potato famous bowl, and then a side of macaroni and cheese, and put em together. so bangin, but its like 7 dollars.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: 凸(。☉౪ ⊙。)▁▇▀▀▀~~~卍 on July 08, 2008, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on July 07, 2008, 08:15:07 AM
Well it is. Ain't no denying that, signal.
It is a nigro. Dir en BLACK NIGGA NIG!
oh my god! gurlfriend how you iz!?
iz you for real! oh my lord jesus christ.

watchu did gurl!


omg even in a country where blacks are segregraded to the welfare center i think i can pull of a black person good ;o

*sniffs petrol*

omg, ok im lying, i like black people and how they crump n shit! long dicks n all
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on July 09, 2008, 12:10:17 AM
What about Retardism?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on August 02, 2008, 12:28:50 AM
Quote from: signal to noise on June 28, 2008, 05:01:31 AM
Quote from: Username on June 27, 2008, 11:29:57 AM
srs dicuzzin: Did someone happen to bring professional recording equipment to the hide Memorial Summit and record Dir en grey playing Miscast? I [REQ] that. I promise "thanks" (1).

if you're actually serious, no, theres no recording of it, that part was cut from their televised performance.

awuawuawuauwuauwuawuauw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV2ZXaWxxJg

I knew this existed, but then it disappeared. Only 2:43 of it though.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 02, 2008, 10:42:12 PM
yeah i just saw that the other day. im amusing one of the concert goers recorded it on their phone or something?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on August 03, 2008, 12:53:01 AM
new album in november, "uroboros." limited edition is like $120 USD woohoo
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on August 03, 2008, 07:33:14 PM
It comes with a random band members' sperm, so fangirls can impregnate themselves. The Kyo version will be the most rare of course. You can expect that to sell on ebay for $600 or more.

Now u can rly Have Diruuuu's babies!!!11! WAAIIIIIIIII!11! ^w^)/ <33333 ~*~**~
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on August 04, 2008, 02:06:28 AM
Aw, that's Kyo's grandpa. It wont matter since they're both related and all.
Indirect Kyo sperms.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 04, 2008, 07:18:59 AM
the special edition is like 2 cds, 1 dvd, and 2 12" vinyl i think.

no cum.  :-\

and i think its already sold out most places. i GUESS i'll have to settle for the regular 2 disc one.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on August 04, 2008, 08:33:54 AM
^ In all seriousness I'd probably consider buying it, had I not spent so much on a bunch of random other stuff. Oh well.


But really now, no cum?? I guess two vinyls make up for it.. Though a fangirl can't exactly impregnate herself with vinyl. (What a shame)
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on August 04, 2008, 09:39:51 AM
Yeah right, like hardcore Dir en grey fans even know what a record player is.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 04, 2008, 04:29:47 PM
i used to have turntables a while ago. i have a small vinyl collection, but nothing old really, just stuff from the past ten years. it would be sick to have Dir en grey vinyl in my collection, but i think most stores are already sold out of the deluxe edition. plus i cant usually spend 100+ dollars freely that often.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on August 05, 2008, 01:54:34 AM
I'd seriously consider spending $ 100 for copics because I'm sort of art-whore these days
no diru
the internet is for diru music
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on August 05, 2008, 07:05:59 AM
LMFAO i applaud Dir en grey for taking advantage of their fucking retarded fans.

"Hey gize I bet we could charge a hundred bucks for our next CD and it would STILL sell out."
"I bet we could charge MORE!"
"LET'S DO IT! KAWAII DESU"
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 05, 2008, 07:40:59 AM
the cd is normal price.

the cd plus extra disc plus dvd plus 2 LPs is still normal price for all that stuff.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on August 09, 2008, 10:01:30 AM
cdjapan sez:


Dir en grey's new album "Uroboros" draws it's name from the cyclical serpent--the mystical symbol of a snake consuming its own tale. What better image is there for a band that frequently consumes itself in order to make a more powerful, perfect, whole? Like the Uroboros of legend, Dir en grey's new album marks a sort of return for the band, revisiting the pre-"Withering to Death" era with what is scheduled to be the band's most diverse, brooding, and creative release yet. Non-screaming vocals are set to take on a stronger part in the compositions--competing with new intruments like mandolins. Thematically "Uroboros" considers topics of guilt and reincarnation.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on August 09, 2008, 01:26:03 PM
i wasnt really planning on listening to this but maybe i should, I stopped listening to Dir en grey after I saw them live in Feb 06 for various reasons
Never listened to dozing green
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: mjmclean on August 09, 2008, 06:15:35 PM
I'll probably be getting the limited [2 disc] edition. I regretted not getting The Marrow of a Bone at the time because of those great acoustic remixes. And hey, he says he's actually going to be singing on this one rather than focussing on vomiting his intestines out, so that's got to be worth something.

However, I can't see myself forking out £60 for an album that hasn't even got a track list or cover art yet. What if it's got a shit, goofy picture of Kyo grinning madly, doing a thumbs-up, and having a speech bubble coming out of his mouth in which he's saying "LOL you actually bought this drivel". In Japanese, of course.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on August 10, 2008, 12:14:24 AM
Quote from: mjmclean on August 09, 2008, 06:15:35 PM
What if it's got a shit, goofy picture of Kyo grinning madly, doing a thumbs-up, and having a speech bubble coming out of his mouth in which he's saying "LOL you actually bought this drivel". In Japanese, of course.

I'd buy it then
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on August 11, 2008, 06:45:02 AM
theres a clip of Glass Skin on their website now. like what they did from Dozing Green, its like a 10 second clip.

from what i can gather and assume from this tiny clip, it sounds like they have taken the skills theyve acquired in the past few years and applied them to a more eclectic sound, if anything more closer to their first 3 albums than their later heavier ones.

just a guess though. after that 10 second part it could go into a Bury Your Dead-esque chugging open C minor chord breakdown.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on August 11, 2008, 07:36:58 AM
someone leak it already
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on August 11, 2008, 08:11:29 AM
Can you hear them sitting on those foam rings?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on August 11, 2008, 09:21:54 AM
10 second samples are retarded. 30 second samples are dumb but ten is just redonkulous
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on August 11, 2008, 09:56:45 AM
It's not like giving everyone 30 seconds or a minute is going to hurt sales. 10 seconds is just ridiculous.

I hope the production on their next album is good. Marrow was too loud, had too much static/fuzz, and was too rough. Withering felt like it was covered in that clearcoat stuff they put on everything at Disneyland. It should be like Macabre where everything sounds good. And Toshiya should play with a pick. It should not be a victim of the "loudness wars". They should do everything that I say because it will make their music better.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on August 11, 2008, 10:05:14 AM
But will they get more sex?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on August 11, 2008, 10:22:31 AM
The fangirls that only liked them 1997-2003 will probably start wanting to sex them again.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on August 14, 2008, 12:09:26 AM
I like their 2001-2003 works
and I'm gonna like the upcoming album -
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/grapes/-/archives/2008_08_08_dir_en_grey
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: mjmclean on August 14, 2008, 01:22:20 AM
Quote from: Username on August 11, 2008, 09:56:45 AM
Withering felt like it was covered in that clearcoat stuff they put on everything at Disneyland.

Two words for you: Beautiful Dirt. ;)
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on August 14, 2008, 01:46:36 AM
Quote from: mjmclean on August 14, 2008, 01:22:20 AM
Quote from: Username on August 11, 2008, 09:56:45 AM
Withering felt like it was covered in that clearcoat stuff they put on everything at Disneyland.

Two words for you: Beautiful Dirt. ;)

Splintery wood is still smooth when covered in Disneyland glaze.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on October 26, 2008, 03:33:36 AM
More new Durrr in gray on Sunday with FULL METAL JACKIE ON CHAOS ON 103.1 INDIE FM tune in for 2 hours and hope you don't hear Glass Skin or a different version of Dozing Green

Poll: Red Soil

1. Gay
2. Good
3. Option for fangirls: Something about how you like it and everything else that they've done no matter what, and how you want to marry a certain member, then make this face ^________^
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on October 26, 2008, 05:25:12 AM
This band is as relevant as your mom farting
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on October 27, 2008, 02:06:41 AM
Quote from: Username on October 26, 2008, 03:33:36 AM
Poll: Red Soil

1. Gay
2. Good
3. Option for fangirls: Something about how you like it and everything else that they've done no matter what, and how you want to marry a certain member, then make this face ^________^

3!!!!!1! OHH!!! RED SOIL WAS SOOO GOOD. Kyo sounded like a scary evil posessed demony thing omg I love him he is soo crazy!!! Hahah! I tried to make those same sounds wen I was singing along and my mom thought i was dying!! omg hahaha!!!! I wanna marry Kyo so bad, I love him n all his tatoos are cool. ^_________^
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 27, 2008, 02:14:06 AM
the clip i heard of it on the site was alright. before that they had the english chorus of dozing green which i thought wasnt as good, and im not one of those japanese language elitists, because i dont fuckin speak it, i just thought it sounded better in japanese.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 27, 2008, 03:18:34 AM
Red Soil is like the best track evar111111
though not the most original one
some of dozing green, some of new take on hydra
but really gooood
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on October 27, 2008, 03:42:11 AM
chaka jaka maka dir en grey booga boog
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on October 27, 2008, 06:45:50 AM
OH FUCK IT'S GLASS SKIN WITH ENGLISH WORDS IN IT I'VE BEEN WAITING MY WHOLE LIFE TO HEAR THIS

poll: glass skin englandese

1. great song
2. greatest song
3. greaterest song
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on October 27, 2008, 06:52:05 AM
Is this band any good? recommend songs then I'll say what I think of them. I never actually tried Dir En Grey before because it's so popular and stuff, I never listen to popular stuff because it usually sucks
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on October 27, 2008, 07:16:04 AM
Quote from: Culo on October 27, 2008, 06:52:05 AM
Is this band any good? recommend songs then I'll say what I think of them. I never actually tried Dir En Grey before because it's so popular and stuff, I never listen to popular stuff because it usually sucks

GAUZE -mode of eve-
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on October 27, 2008, 11:54:13 AM
Haha no. Shokubeni, Riyuu, Bottom of the death valley
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 27, 2008, 05:16:02 PM
Quote from: Username on October 27, 2008, 06:45:50 AM
OH FUCK IT'S GLASS SKIN WITH ENGLISH WORDS IN IT I'VE BEEN WAITING MY WHOLE LIFE TO HEAR THIS

poll: glass skin englandese

1. great song
2. greatest song
3. greaterest song
I vote for "it sucks and makes less sense that Japanese version"
Though they rimmed the US fans with care, that's true.


omg, you're taking Naja seriously?... o___o
he'll be back with that fake uroboros leak and spread the chocolate rain.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 27, 2008, 08:35:33 PM
Quote from: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on October 27, 2008, 11:54:13 AM
Haha no. Shokubeni, Riyuu, Bottom of the death valley

you know their site used to officially romanji them as Syokubeni and Wake rightttttt? whattttt.

i'll add you an Amber to that list. and Zakuro.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 27, 2008, 10:53:04 PM
I'd simply put the kisou and vulgar albums on the must-listen list.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on October 28, 2008, 02:34:04 AM
yeah, well said. i'd recommend them all, but those 2 are probably the best for getting into the band. i even like Withering to Death in its gloss-finished sound and glory.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on October 28, 2008, 04:51:45 AM
FUCKSHITBADMUSIC
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 28, 2008, 06:54:05 AM
GEEV US GOOD MUSIC, OK?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on October 28, 2008, 07:37:34 AM
a couple better than dir en gay musics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4FhXd6fKNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO1GD5Kd0WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCIFBuzMnCg

VK at it's finest
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on October 28, 2008, 08:17:19 AM
better than mozart
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on October 30, 2008, 04:33:38 AM
fukken shitstorm in the shoutbox

http://jrocknyc.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on November 03, 2008, 03:48:51 AM
Make sure to listen to INDIE 103.1 FULL METAL JACKIE CHAOS RADIO LA for a completely new Dir en grey song that you've definitely never heard before.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 03, 2008, 07:53:19 AM
waaaaaaait. its gonna be clever sleazoid huh.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 03, 2008, 08:13:14 PM
its gonna be Cage The Final.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 04, 2008, 07:59:27 PM
anyone seen them on their current tour yet? im seeing them in Boston and was wondering what songs thems is playing.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 05, 2008, 01:41:08 AM
my bet: 1/2 uroboros, 1/3 marrow, and 1/6 everything else. and yes that adds up
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on November 05, 2008, 02:36:21 AM
real setlist from concert I went to yesterday:

G.D.S
Schwein no Isu
Myaku
Cage
Umbrella
Akuro no Oka
Garden
Byo Shin
Child Prey
Jessica
Ain't afraid to die
Jealous
Unknown...despair...a lost
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 05, 2008, 05:18:46 AM
Quote from: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 05, 2008, 01:41:08 AM
my bet: 1/2 uroboros, 1/3 marrow, and 1/6 everything else. and yes that adds up

i dunno man. im seeing them the day Uroboros is released in Japan, and i saw them live on the day Marrow dropped in the Japan as well, and that night they played 6 songs off Marrow, 8 off Withering, 3 off Vulgar, and 1 off Six Ugly.

so im kindof thinking like 1/3 Uroboros, 1/3 Marrow, 1/3 bunch of other stuff.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on November 05, 2008, 05:28:16 AM
I've heard they're doing korn covers and some new hip hop songs
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Kyο on November 05, 2008, 08:14:10 AM
I hope they play their new hip hop remix of Unknown...despair...a lost.  Dayum.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on November 06, 2008, 07:23:01 AM
the one mixed by miyavi with alice nine on guest vocals?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 06, 2008, 10:36:49 AM
alice nine doesnt even have nine members. and none of them are named alice. FALSE ADVERTISING
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 06, 2008, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 06, 2008, 10:36:49 AM
alice nine doesnt even have nine members. and none of them are named alice. FALSE ADVERTISING

i've always thought it was a cool band name for a band who only makes good music 1/10th of the time.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on November 06, 2008, 05:44:20 PM
you guys so funny
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 09, 2008, 09:54:04 PM
any insight on this chance to meet the band on their current tour? their myspace bulletin is saying that if you buy the cd you have a chance to meet them afte the show. so is it a raffle like they did with TMOAB? and do they (if its even more than one member) actually stay awhile or do they sign a few cds and be like "okei baibai americans"?
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on November 09, 2008, 10:59:01 PM
I think it's only possible if you've got a vagina with free space for 5 tiny azn cocks, otherwise forget about your amerifag dream of meeting this excellent japanese rap band
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 10, 2008, 12:33:47 AM
you should know, im going to fucking kill you.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 10, 2008, 02:53:06 AM
Hahahah its ok najapoop i ruvs you dont listen to that mean old man
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 10, 2008, 08:48:09 AM
its just that theres a fine line between being stupidily hilarious and a fuckin annoying poseur douche. fucking americans.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on November 10, 2008, 10:00:16 AM
Quotefucking americans.

Word
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Jenova on November 10, 2008, 11:28:35 PM
Quote from: Culo on November 09, 2008, 10:59:01 PM
I think it's only possible if you've got a vagina with free space for 5 tiny azn cocks, otherwise forget about your amerifag dream of meeting this excellent japanese rap band

I lol'd.  Srsly.  Next thing you know, they'll be on Yo Gabba Gabba or some shit, trying to follow all the trends.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on November 11, 2008, 02:37:10 AM
is that true that AnCafe are headlining the next Taste of Chaos tour?

I'm trying to turn this into a sirious thread.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 11, 2008, 09:15:48 AM
lol i would go so i could climb on stage and blow my brains out
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Jenova on November 12, 2008, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 11, 2008, 09:15:48 AM
lol i would go so i could climb on stage and blow my brains out

May I watch and lol?

If they seriously are, I fear for music in general.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 13, 2008, 07:24:24 AM
to anyone wondering what the setlists are looking like, heres my show (in order)-

Sa Bir
Obscure
Grief
Agitated Screams of Maggots
Disabled Complexes
The Fatal Believer
Toguro
Namamekashiki Ansoku, Tamerai ni Hohoemi
Agitated Screams of Maggots unplugged (basically an interlude)
Conceived Sorrow
Glass Skin
Ryoujoku no Ame
Hydra 666
Merciless Cult
The Deeper Vileness
Dozing Green
Repitition of Hatred

-ENCORE-
Kodou
Gaika, Chinmoku Ga Nemuru Koro
Clever Sleazoid
Saku
The IIID Empire

i didnt buy the new cd to do the meet the band thing, since they were only selling the normal edition and i planned on getting the special edition with the dvd and didnt want to buy 2 of the cd (despite how im getting the japanese one in the mail soon...) just to meet like 2 of them for 2 seconds and get autographs when i already have em all. harsh right?

got me a tour shirt and tour hoodie, pretty expensive, bring loads of money if you plan on getting merch, there were 3 different shirts at $30 each, the hoodie is $55, new album for $15, poster for $15, set of 5 pins for $10, and then i think a $2 sticker

they played quite well, very energetic, and the backdrop + lights were really cool, the closest theyve gotten here to the look of their japanese shows.

oh and the opening band is fucking horrible.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: nekki_chibi on November 13, 2008, 07:46:32 AM
Ewww %( I'm stuck in the fucking Wancouver
can't even go to Toronto (halfway through Canadia during my school year, boooooo) for the show.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 13, 2008, 10:37:41 AM
Quote from: Jenova on November 12, 2008, 10:34:48 PM
May I watch and lol?

Yes of course. Post it on youtube plz
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Jenova on November 13, 2008, 10:47:00 PM
Quote from: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on November 13, 2008, 10:37:41 AM
Quote from: Jenova on November 12, 2008, 10:34:48 PM
May I watch and lol?

Yes of course. Post it on youtube plz
OKay 8Dv
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 18, 2008, 05:08:17 PM
finally got my japanese copy of Uroboros in the mail. i got the 2 disc japanese version, not that crazy ass one. to anyone that cares, its physical appearance is very much identical to the american edition that has the dvd (which i also got  ;D ) but the packaging is nicer, the booklet has a little bit more art, plus has both english and japanese lyrics (the american one only has english). oh and the the discs come in those white protection sleeves, in the american one theyre just in the case. but its mostly identical, it has an outside case, and then inside has 2 inside pieces, one being the lyrics/liner notes, and then another being the case for the disc. its kindof like the special edition of TMOAB if anyone has that.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on November 18, 2008, 07:55:48 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on November 18, 2008, 05:08:17 PM
(the american one only has english)

WHY
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Jenova on November 18, 2008, 09:55:48 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on November 18, 2008, 05:08:17 PM
finally got my japanese copy of Uroboros in the mail. i got the 2 disc japanese version, not that crazy ass one. to anyone that cares, its physical appearance is very much identical to the american edition that has the dvd (which i also got  ;D ) but the packaging is nicer, the booklet has a little bit more art, plus has both english and japanese lyrics (the american one only has english). oh and the the discs come in those white protection sleeves, in the american one theyre just in the case. but its mostly identical, it has an outside case, and then inside has 2 inside pieces, one being the lyrics/liner notes, and then another being the case for the disc. its kindof like the special edition of TMOAB if anyone has that.

ooo the way the special edition of TMOAB was packaged was totally awesome [has it 8DDv]
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: signal to noise on November 18, 2008, 10:59:26 PM
Quote from: Username on November 18, 2008, 07:55:48 PM
Quote from: signal to noise on November 18, 2008, 05:08:17 PM
(the american one only has english)

WHY

hey you might think that would be normal, but ive seen other japanese cds put out here that will have the japanese, english, and romanji.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Culo on November 22, 2008, 03:12:40 AM
a friend of mine bought the expensive edition with LPs and shit, she was bugging me all day asking if she can play the LPs in my player, I said no but then I let her in exchange of a fellatio.

id' say it was nice, the music sucked tho
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: Username on November 22, 2008, 11:17:42 PM
I just got my American Uroboros after waiting 11 days for Tower.com's horrible free shipping. The packaging is pretty ghetto. A flimsy box with another flimsy box holding the CDs. And I still can't read any of it. Size 3 dark red font on a black background. English-only lyrics is just pouring salt on the wounds.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: odoroboujohn on February 16, 2009, 07:53:06 AM
I Had waited for about 3 weeks after Uroboros came out to hear it. I wanted my first time to be on VINYL!!!! Which it was and I soo loved that they finally made vinyl!
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: mjmclean on September 26, 2009, 11:17:46 PM
Most of you probably already know this, but for those who missed it, there's been a new single up for pre-order on cdjapan since yesterday, with new versions of Zan and Shokubeni, packaged with a DVD.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SFCD-66 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SFCD-66)
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: xensoldier on January 13, 2010, 07:23:31 AM
I've seen them 3 times here in Dallas. I have only personally met Die and Kaoru. Yeah unfortunately Kyo didn't come out at the Palladium Ballroom concert in 08. I was really hoping to because I had a custome made glass ringed necklace to give to him and a card. Which was translated into (katakana or was it hiragana..) by a friend. I gave it to what's her name, Diru's translator chick to give to Kyo.
Title: Re: Diru
Post by: kyogasuki on February 28, 2010, 10:43:52 AM
Time to be completely honest...I really can't stand most of the newer songs.  Vulgar was the last album in which I liked around 90% of the songs...WtD had a couple of songs that I liked (Kodou was amazing).  Since then, they have been a hit-or-miss.  The only songs I have actually liked a lot since are Glass Skin, The Pledge, and of course, Vinushka.  Personally, I will always love the band, and will always go to their show if I can...but I can't say I approve of the direction that their music is heading at all.  Songs like yurameki, mask, cage, and filth will always give me enough hope to keep with the band.