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General => HOLY SH!@.. AWESOME! => Topic started by: TeamAwesome on December 03, 2007, 11:01:33 PM

Title: Japanese ID3
Post by: TeamAwesome on December 03, 2007, 11:01:33 PM
I love nothing more than to have my Japanese songs tagged and filenamed in their appropriate Japanese characters. However, I have found that every time I reformat Windows and sometimes just for no reason, a lot of my files RENAME themselves into that lovely gibberish crap that Windows is infamous for displaying instead of asian characters. I have found that some band's (and only those bands... others are unaffected) manage to get their filenames retagged.

let's take MUCC - Utagoe for example here. I ripped it with Japanese ID3 tags, but the filename wasn't Japanese, so I changed it to make the directory/filename look like this MUCC ---> 謡声(ウタゴエ) ---> 01. 謡声(ウタゴエ). I reformat Windows, nice clean install. I check out my MUCC folder and every Japanese character tagged folder has been changed to corresponding underscores, Utagoe for instance being __(____) ---> 01. __(____).

does this happen to anyone else, can anyone explain why this happens? It's incredibly infuriating. I've changed most of my tags back to romaji, but I really don't want to go through all my songs to change the tags back.
Title: Re: Japanese ID3
Post by: Username on December 04, 2007, 05:18:22 AM
1. Install the Japanese language thing.
2. Stop reformatting so often.
Title: Re: Japanese ID3
Post by: TeamAwesome on December 04, 2007, 07:29:40 AM
I have the language pack, otherwise ALL the songs would do it. But only a certain few do. I don't know whether Winamp is to blame or not (as it has unicode compatibility issues).

I don't format THAT often ^^"" and it seems MUCC is the only band that has their folder names renamed. My Girugamesh ID3 tags have never stuffed up. Is there some detail I'm missing about mp3s here? Why would this frustratingly wonderful problem target only specific bands?
Title: Re: Japanese ID3
Post by: lovetrick on December 04, 2007, 06:18:01 PM
get a japanese os
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Title: Re: Japanese ID3
Post by: Glamour on December 09, 2007, 11:20:54 PM
This tends to happen when your settings in Regional and Language Options are set for English. Sure, you can have Japanese language support, but all of your applications are most likely designed for the English language.

To fix this, you'd change the Language for non-Unicode programs to Japanese. This will change the font of your Windows interface and many things may be displayed incorrectly. I use AppLocale if I ever need to utilize the Japanese language for certain programs (like SoulSeek).

If you're able to tolerate a Japanese interface, by all means. But, switch back to English after retagging all your songs in any way in the Japanese mode, and your files will be displayed in gibberish again.
Title: Re: Japanese ID3
Post by: カレン on December 10, 2007, 12:05:15 AM
My OS is set to Japanese for non-unicode programs, and my interface is in English. The only annoying thing is that accented letters (like in Spanish and whatnot) come up as random kanji. Other than that, there's no problem.

But as Glamour said, if you switch back for any reason you will most likely have to retag all your files again.
Title: Re: Japanese ID3
Post by: baka_neko on December 10, 2007, 02:59:05 AM
Quote from: カレン on December 10, 2007, 12:05:15 AM
My OS is set to Japanese for non-unicode programs, and my interface is in English. The only annoying thing is that accented letters (like in Spanish and whatnot) come up as random kanji. Other than that, there's no problem.

But as Glamour said, if you switch back for any reason you will most likely have to retag all your files again.

dont forget the \ symbol being changed to ¥ in windows explorer and a few other places XD
Title: Re: Japanese ID3
Post by: TeamAwesome on December 18, 2007, 04:27:23 AM
Quote from: Glamour on December 09, 2007, 11:20:54 PM
This tends to happen when your settings in Regional and Language Options are set for English. Sure, you can have Japanese language support, but all of your applications are most likely designed for the English language.

To fix this, you'd change the Language for non-Unicode programs to Japanese. This will change the font of your Windows interface and many things may be displayed incorrectly. I use AppLocale if I ever need to utilize the Japanese language for certain programs (like SoulSeek).

If you're able to tolerate a Japanese interface, by all means. But, switch back to English after retagging all your songs in any way in the Japanese mode, and your files will be displayed in gibberish again.

That is probably what caused it. As I had my Language for non-Unicode programs set to Japanese on my previous couple of installs purely for last.fm, which seems to have resolved it's issues. Thanks for the help ^^
Title: Re: Japanese ID3
Post by: CleverSleazoid on January 02, 2008, 07:28:03 AM
Very simple: Keep the filenames romaji and the tags in japanese (kanji/hiragana/katakana). Having japanese filenames are a real problem since most programs can't deal with them and unless you do use a fully japanese language OS, having files in japanese will always be a problem.
Title: Re: Japanese ID3
Post by: TeamAwesome on January 02, 2008, 11:02:37 AM
Quote from: CleverSleazoid on January 02, 2008, 07:28:03 AM
Very simple: Keep the filenames romaji and the tags in japanese (kanji/hiragana/katakana). Having japanese filenames are a real problem since most programs can't deal with them and unless you do use a fully japanese language OS, having files in japanese will always be a problem.

Yeah, I think I'll agree with that. Now if only we could make that a standard ^^""