^omg yes ayabie too ...those 2 have been messing me up because to me they've never looked oshare (well okay ayabie has recently but not before) but then i get e-bitch slapped by some overzealous fans >_> so i just kinda accepted that okay maybe they are oshare ...erm maybe... and i understand the ban thing lol he's definately the one throwing it off in lolita23q cuz he's oe reason i kind of accepted it... he sure does have the oshare look at times but ban is pure <3 *squishes him*
i actually sorta meant that he had the oshare look but it was sorta well...a more VK (with the contacts, piercings, etc) 'oshare' look. he wasn't really much of a 'girl', 'cause he looked so much more manly than most hime in bands. especially their newer looks. haha. it's just really funny that people thought they were oshare.
in the pics of him not dressed up though, like this one, he looks a bit oshare however
this one, though really small, shows he can pull off a hime look
i just don't think they really set out to be really oshare, they just sorta liked the look of it? if they did they didn't think it through much...or maybe in japan they are considered oshare in their earlier days. i dunno. just my opinion.