Tonberry

Well I'd like to talk about what I like to call the sad decline of Kyo. See, I have been watching many live Dir en grey videos. And it seems that Kyo(Lead singer) is drastically losing both his stamina and abiltty to sing/perform like he used to. And he is not old. Haruhiko Ash is old and he does like 10 times better than Kyo does now. I just like... I would like to know why this is. I think Kyo tours too much. And on another note I am going to see Dir en Grey in September and I hope my man Kyo has his voice back. But we shall see. I don't like them any less. I just think he should give himself a little rest.

I think he's one of the musicians who give themselves away in their concerts, so bad they don't have enough energies to keep up through the day after. Usually artists as these don't preform more than once per day, but once in two-three days, so they gain their powers back, fueling and recharge their batteries.  ;)

kyo voice is back, it listens to ryoujoku no ame and the songs live recorded in Berlin in where it is listened to kyo very good.
says that kyo  let smoke

cool. And yeah Kyo is a heavy smoker

Hmmm.

I don't really know what I think about this topic because I have very mixed feelings about Dir en Grey and where their music is going.  I don't know if I like their new single or Clever Sleazoid.  I think they are trying to go somewhere new with there music and style, but I don't know exactly what they are trying to accomplish and so I dunno if I like it or not.  I think the sound of Kyo's voice now is a part of this, like he's trying to do something different with the sound....or something weird like that.

I don't think I'm doing a very good explanation of what I am thinking.

But yeah. 

Do you know what I am talking about?  I am sure that the other factors (smoking and little rest and all) do play a part in it too...

residentevilrulz

what live videos are you watching and what is their timeline.

also what ash do and what kyo do are drastically different. kyo does a lot more with his voice than ash does so it isnt really that good of a comparison.

Well all the ones where Kyo is not very good is the stuff from Withering to Death. The live stuff from their Vulgar album and Kissou etc is all good. Like.. Kyo just looks so pale and sick now. If you go to youtube and look at the Live Mushi video and compare that to the way Kyo looks in like say... Spilled Milk and The Final Live. He is like pale and sickly looking and his hair is not all prettied up like it used to be. And he is too out of breath to sing half of what is supposed to be in the song. Like I said, I love the guy just the same. I just think he should take a little rest.  Here are links. And about Haruhiko.. I realize they are very different. I just mean that for being 41 years old the guy does pretty well. And he is my favorite Jrocker. I pretty much idolize the guy

-Mushi-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=56DMT5rgTxw

-Spilled Milk & The Final-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=An1W-WRGCfE

hmm is that the rock am ring performance. cause aparently there are good reasons why kyo was way off during those performances.

i saw dir en grey when they came to l.a. and kyo was spot on with the vocals and i never hear any talk of that performance. i guess people tend to focus on the bad stuff.

a better comparison if you wanted to get across a vocalist who has been doing it forever and isnt faltering is kiyoharu. kiyoharu is 38 and his voice still sounds as good as it did in kuroyume.

Yeah that was the AM rock ring. What are the reasons? And I wasn't jsut talking about his voice. He just appears like.. pale and sick almost. And his hair is like.. I don't know torn up?

July of 2006, it was in Japanese news that Kyo was hospitalized of inflamed vocal cords. Recently, he was then released. [Wikipedia]

but they did not listen to New Single?  in addition to the new song, where listening very good, in lives of Berlin listening quite better profit to sing or The Final again, in HIGEKI WA MABUTA WO OROSHITA YASASHIKI UTSU makes notice its voice is great singing single seconds after finished the song, the truth that never I listens to a good live version of HIGEKI WA MABUTA WO OROSHITA YASASHIKI UTSU , is the first time that I enjoy it without no shout, XD

Quote from: residentevilrulz on August 05, 2006, 09:24:25 PM
Yeah that was the AM rock ring. What are the reasons? And I wasn't jsut talking about his voice. He just appears like.. pale and sick almost. And his hair is like.. I don't know torn up?

aparently the flight or something affected his ear condition, which left him in a sickened state.

He's had all kinds of issues lately it seems.

hi everyone
my opinion is that they dont go to other country because they are going away to throw to lose.a concert like berlin is patetic,playing in the afternoon and in the open air is ridiculous,for that dont go.
if anyone have some doubt,download the "It Withers And Withers" concert,THIS IS A CONCERT!!!!!!!  8) 8) 8)  (and not the another one  >:( )
regards :)

Kyo's voice is all right, they're doing good at FVT.

This is an interesting topic and one I am not really caring to much for... I have to agree with jeftones. I was also at the L.A concert and Kyo sounded great.  And as far as the new single, I think it's an exceptional peice of music. But to each their own, right?

Quote from: wai on August 17, 2006, 08:04:52 PM
Kyo's voice is all right, they're doing good at FVT.

aparently critics are giving them good reviews too.

well maybe if they visited my neck of the woods someday I could honestly make an opinion from seeing them live *sucks to live in Australia, don't go there*

but eh, alot of vocalist, especially those who play alot of different notes, whether it be high or low, tend to damage their vocal chords... it was only a matter of time before something happened, but I don't think Kyo has changed in awesomeness, his vocals are always great, way back when he started they were great, now they have drastically changed, so has the guitar, so has the bass and drums, it's not just Kyo, it's the whole style, as for the new single *can't remember the title...* rapes candy or something, uhm, yeah, his vocals were very old school I think, they way he used to do things... I'm interested on where the new music is going, I'd like more songs like "Rapes candy" (sorry, I can't remember how to say it in Japanese...)

I wouldn't be surprised if he had some sort of drug problem.  But that would just make him more rockin' in my book.

Saw his two days ago in East Troy, Wisconsin for the Family Values tour and he's still rocking it out and didn't have any problems!
It was awesome, so don't wory about it!

I've seen Dir en grey live twice now. Once in Tokyo once in LA
I do like Dir en grey, however thier lives SUCK.
Yeah I was at the LA show too.. Kyo doesnt sing nearly as much as he should during songs. The best live shows I've seen are Deadman, Sex Machineguns, Kagrra and MUCC. They actually sound better live than they do on CD.

I dont mean to sound like an ass but you can't deny that their live shows (these days) fail.

I can agree a little bit with all of you. I have been to 2 Dir en Grey's lives. They were amazing but Kyo-san had to rest after 4-5 songs, I felt pity for him. His voice... isn't perfect. I prefer listening to dir en grey's mp3 than take a part in their perfomances. Really. Maybe the good times of DIR'u will come back... who knows.

Quote from: Milkthief on September 03, 2006, 11:42:20 AM
I've seen Dir en grey live twice now. Once in Tokyo once in LA
I do like Dir en grey, however thier lives SUCK.
Yeah I was at the LA show too.. Kyo doesnt sing nearly as much as he should during songs. The best live shows I've seen are Deadman, Sex Machineguns, Kagrra and MUCC. They actually sound better live than they do on CD.

I dont mean to sound like an ass but you can't deny that their live shows (these days) fail.

I saw Dir in Phoenix and I couldn't disagree more. The only times Kyo stopped singing was when he did his scratching thing. Otherwise, he was perfect.

I saw a nice picture of Kyo in the latest edition of Fools Mate... he looked, well, like he'd been a bit itchy o.O

look, it's not like the guys were going to last forever, they have most definately released some very influential music, obviously likes and dislikes are oppionated, but it was definately influential... and they are still making new stuff, it all comes down to opinion to whether or not you want to listen to them >>

I just saw Dir en Grey live yesterday in Michigan.  It was pretty damn sweet and entertaining to watch the guys.  Yes, Kyo didn't sing as much of the lyrics as on his cds.  But he was doing so much on stage and getting so into the performance that it was really a treat and I wouldn't give my money back for my ticket, I have no regrets, the concert was awesome.  And even my brother who isn't in to japanese music had to agree that Dir en Grey was one of the best bands there.  IMO, I'd say it was Dir en grey #1, then Korn, then stone sour.  My brother said Korn, Dir en grey, then stone sour.  It was a rockin' concert and I loved seeing dir en grey live.  I was maybe 40 or 50ft away from the stage too, I was really close and got a got a good view of everything.  Kaoru was closet to me, so that was really cool.  I took tons of pictures, it was really awesome.  My ears are still ringing!

eww Korn and Stone Sour >> Diru > fo' shiz!

I heard about that family tour, why do you americans get good shit!? poor Australians are forced to bands like... well, no-one! I'm in Japan at the moment though, but you know... you need free time to go to concerts, and students most certainly don't have free time ><

I think the Kyo's been like that for a while! as in, the less lyrics on stage, more giving a show... ever since they came on stage without costume really... I loved their old full visual stuff too ^^ they are a great band, mainstream is just a word people use to make themselves sound pro >>

Well, I know how you feel about not ever having good stuff come to you.  I live in Michigan, and trust me, the good stuff (imo jrock bands), never go to michigan.  When I heard Dir en grey was coming to michigan I jumped at the chance to see them.  And actually, I'm not a huge Korn fan, I only know like several of their songs, and I've never heard StoneSour before but one song.  But I have to admit they put on a good concert.  But of course, Dir en grey was the best band there ^_~

Yumeko I to was at the FVT in Michigan (I live in Flint) how did you enjoy the weather  :)  but anyways on to the topic. I thought Dir en Grey put on the best show.  they sounded great, kyo sounded great  and the band put forth a great amount of energy that was fun to watch. of course this was my first time seeing them in person so I have northing to compare this show too. I basicly paid the 10 bucks for a ticket and sat in the rain and snow all day to see them and I would do it again anyday.

Oh the weather was shit, but surprise surprise that's michigan for you :P  I'm very used to it and it was funny to see all the singers strip down to pants, I just kept thinking about how cold they must be.  Anywho, it's way cool to meet another big Jrock fan from michigan.  I don't know enough of them.

yeah I know what you mean about meeting another Jrock fan from Michigan I know that their are some fans out their but finding them is hard.  I was actually thinking I wonder how many times any of them bands had played outside in weather like that especially Dir en grey.  I bet they enjoyed it though must be a nice change from playing is some hot inside venue.

LOL, I was wondering that to.  Besides the one band that was from boston, most of them were from the south.  And especially when Deg was on, I kept wondering if they've ever been in such cold weather.  Then again, Japan has some cold winters too, but it was begining of september and it was so cold I could see my breath.  It was winter weather.  Did it actually snow?  I know it rained, but I didn't notice it snowed.

yeah, snow did put on a great show!... >>

I've been in Japan for 6months and havn't been to any concerts, isn't that ironic? mind you, I'm really busy with school, so I doubt I'd have the chance... actually I'm going to see Skoop on Somebody soon, free concert =D

from all of the lives I've seen in video of Diru, Kyo is great, different every time, but great! =D

 I saw him Diru play this September and he seemed fine to me. Kyo was all over the stage. It was the last show of the American tour so maybe he just gave all that day but he seemed great. Shook their hands too  8)

Quote from: Milkthief on September 03, 2006, 11:42:20 AM
I've seen Dir en grey live twice now. Once in Tokyo once in LA
I do like Dir en grey, however thier lives SUCK.
Yeah I was at the LA show too.. Kyo doesnt sing nearly as much as he should during songs. The best live shows I've seen are Deadman, Sex Machineguns, Kagrra and MUCC. They actually sound better live than they do on CD.

I dont mean to sound like an ass but you can't deny that their live shows (these days) fail.

I disagree.

Before I went to the FVT tour to see Korn and Diru, I had only liked Diru. I mean all I had heard of from them were their Kisou and Missa albums so... I wasn't sure what to expect.

In retrospect, Kyo definitely didn't sing all his lyrics and was quite hoarse but I can absolutely say that the moment Diru got on stage and started... I was so captivated by their performance that I didn't even notice anything was wrong (not that anything was, mind you).

Dir En Grey is just as good live as they have ever been (though this has been the first DeG concert I've been too). Seeing them live has really made me love them cause you can absolutely feel how much they love performing and making music while they're onstage. I think it helped that I was no less than 7 feet away from the stage. <~~been converted to a hardcore Die fan.

Anyways, if anybody gets the chance, please, go see them live. They are really amazing live.

and TeamAwesome I hope you get to go to more concerts while you're in Japan. I wanna go to Japan for study abroad and I plan to go to as many concerts as possible... even if it kills me! lolz

You know whats funny? At the Skoop on Somebody concert (it was actually Music City Tenjin, a weekend event of street side bands playing for nothing, promotional stuff) I was given a nice bag of goodies (the Japs love to give shit away), but in there I found a nice list of bands playing in Fukuoka for the next three months, and on the second page there was a nice picture of our beloved Diru, right there! Not to mention Plastic Tree, but it's getting near christmas and I am running out of money, I have saved enough for Diru, but Plastic Tree is a toughy!

I guess I'll give my own feedback on what I think about Diru when I get back from the concert eh?

as for studying abroad, go for it ;) I'm only a high school student, and their high school is freaking tough, but if you go for a college, Japanese college life seems awesome ^^

btw, you say you saw Korn AND Diru, but said Kyo's voice was coarse... KORN DAMN IT... CAPTAIN COARSE VOCAL o.O

Quote from: TeamAwesome on November 09, 2006, 10:10:54 AM

btw, you say you saw Korn AND Diru, but said Kyo's voice was coarse... KORN DAMN IT... CAPTAIN COARSE VOCAL o.O

Yeah, but that's how Jonathan Davis has always been singing. Kyo isn't nearly as good live as he was a few years ago when I saw them for CODE of VULGAR[ism] couples-only show.

actually.... i never see them live.

but they're playing here in New York next year in February... idk if i want to see them.

Well I dont know about all you guys...but Kyo was dead on perfect at my show when I saw them in Tampa. It was an amazing performance, especially hearing Kodoku ni etc etc, and Ryoujoku no Ame.

I confess... I've seen them 4 times already.
And every show was unique and awesome. Kyo doesn't try to sing like the taking from the album. That entirely isn't the intent of the performance. It seems more like expressing of moods than only singing his part. On every live he changes the lyrics a bit to suit his mood and to express his feelings (at least it seems to me for that reason). No song sounds the same two times.
Not just the vocals are adjusted Kyo's emotions but his behaviour on stage too. When he is happy he doesn't cut his chest that much as when he is annoyed or bothered. That depends on the reaction of the audience as well.
Par example the two concerts in May this year were quite the opposites of performance possible to me.
Berlin was fun. Everyone was screaming along with the lyrics (I think it was Kaoru who said in an interview later on that they had to play parts instinctively since they couldn't hear themselves  8)). Kyo played with the crowd, danced around his mic, posed and smiled a lot. I don't know whether the a capella was planned that day or not, but it was wonderful and proved everyone who didn't believe Kyo can sing otherwise. It is amazing to hear him sing when the whole crowd that is screaming the whole time gets silent in an instant... On that concert Kyo scratched himself once, but wasn't encouraged to do more. Perhaps I imagine things, but he had a very content expression on his face (as far as I can tell from a distance of about 7 feet ^_^).
Cologne was frustrating. Security started to hand out water to the people and a lot of people were screaming for water not for Dir en Grey. They performed outstanding, but the audience didn't react that much. I don't know why  ???. Since the day before Kyo was cheered on on every move he made of his playing, he made some of the same things too in order to entertain, but not many were as animated as the day before. The concert had a very tense atmosphere. Kyo didn't smile at all and seemed quite depressed to me (what I can understand fully!). I think the most reaction they got as Kyo started to scratch and cut himself... That was the most frustrating thing to me, since I saw how it could be the day before T_T. During the a capella, that Kyo tried (it seemed not that spontaneous), people didn't cease to scream for water (or Kaoru >_<). All in all for me it is depressing to think about it. The behavior of the audience, didn't affect the proficiency of the performance though. Dir en Grey made a great show for those who were receptive to it.

I can't wait seeing them again next year, when G.D.S starts and the audience goes crazy again like in Berlin *dreaming*...

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Since concert experiences are very individual I think I should emphasize that this is MY impression and if anyone was there too and think different I can handle it.

Quote from: yo-chan_x on November 12, 2006, 02:56:55 PM
I confess... I've seen them 4 times already.
And every show was unique and awesome. Kyo doesn't try to sing like the taking from the album. That entirely isn't the intent of the performance. It seems more like expressing of moods than only singing his part. On every live he changes the lyrics a bit to suit his mood and to express his feelings (at least it seems to me for that reason). No song sounds the same two times.
Not just the vocals are adjusted Kyo's emotions but his behaviour on stage too. When he is happy he doesn't cut his chest that much as when he is annoyed or bothered. That depends on the reaction of the audience as well.
Par example the two concerts in May this year were quite the opposites of performance possible to me.
Berlin was fun. Everyone was screaming along with the lyrics (I think it was Kaoru who said in an interview later on that they had to play parts instinctively since they couldn't hear themselves  8)). Kyo played with the crowd, danced around his mic, posed and smiled a lot. I don't know whether the a capella was planned that day or not, but it was wonderful and proved everyone who didn't believe Kyo can sing otherwise. It is amazing to hear him sing when the whole crowd that is screaming the whole time gets silent in an instant... On that concert Kyo scratched himself once, but wasn't encouraged to do more. Perhaps I imagine things, but he had a very content expression on his face (as far as I can tell from a distance of about 7 feet ^_^).
Cologne was frustrating. Security started to hand out water to the people and a lot of people were screaming for water not for Dir en Grey. They performed outstanding, but the audience didn't react that much. I don't know why  ???. Since the day before Kyo was cheered on on every move he made of his playing, he made some of the same things too in order to entertain, but not many were as animated as the day before. The concert had a very tense atmosphere. Kyo didn't smile at all and seemed quite depressed to me (what I can understand fully!). I think the most reaction they got as Kyo started to scratch and cut himself... That was the most frustrating thing to me, since I saw how it could be the day before T_T. During the a capella, that Kyo tried (it seemed not that spontaneous), people didn't cease to scream for water (or Kaoru >_<). All in all for me it is depressing to think about it. The behavior of the audience, didn't affect the proficiency of the performance though. Dir en Grey made a great show for those who were receptive to it.

I can't wait seeing them again next year, when G.D.S starts and the audience goes crazy again like in Berlin *dreaming*...

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Since concert experiences are very individual I think I should emphasize that this is MY impression and if anyone was there too and think different I can handle it.

nice what u talk about berlin, it was the same thing to me (may 2005! - I couldn'T go this year, had to pass my f**king alevels T-T no mucc no diru *drop*) I was so damn impressed by his voice and acting performence that i started to like diru! (even the albums XD) The Live there is something that cant be compared to any live dvd!!!

Yes. Last year I saw them too. I was obsessed before, but nothing really NOTHING is like the Live live ^_^.
I hope for a DVD from this year Berlin-concert though. This year there were that many cameras (at least 15-20), I can't imagine this was not for a live dvd. I'm looking forward to see, if a dvd is anything else of an experience if you was there when it was made... At least you can watch what you've seen over and over again @.@ 
As for your alevels... My condolence to you. I had my final exam in Latin this year on the day Plastic Tree played... T_T (At least I passed it) and was on study trip in Italy the whole time during Blood Tour in April... T_T.

Quote from: yo-chan_x on November 12, 2006, 07:06:17 PM
Yes. Last year I saw them too. I was obsessed before, but nothing really NOTHING is like the Live live ^_^.
I hope for a DVD from this year Berlin-concert though. This year there were that many cameras (at least 15-20), I can't imagine this was not for a live dvd. I'm looking forward to see, if a dvd is anything else of an experience if you was there when it was made... At least you can watch what you've seen over and over again @.@ 
As for your alevels... My condolence to you. I had my final exam in Latin this year on the day Plastic Tree played... T_T (At least I passed it) and was on study trip in Italy the whole time during Blood Tour in April... T_T.

;D i wasn't alone suffering ... XD 2006 concerts in germany had all so bad timings T-T!!! hope next year mucc, gazette and diru will come again and rock the house XD >_<"

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;D i wasn't alone suffering ... XD 2006 concerts in germany had all so bad timings T-T!!! hope next year mucc, gazette and diru will come again and rock the house XD >_<"

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Dir en Grey and Gazette have announced their coming already and with Mucc I think that as well.
Kaoru said sometime last year, Dir en Grey will come to Europe every year from now on.
After the second concert of Gazette, Reita said "Wir kommen wieder" (We will come again).
And Mucc played 3 concerts this year, I think they have reason to come back ^_^.
I will definitely be there!

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;D i wasn't alone suffering ... XD 2006 concerts in germany had all so bad timings T-T!!! hope next year mucc, gazette and diru will come again and rock the house XD >_<"

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Dir en Grey and Gazette have announced their coming already and with Mucc I think that as well.
Kaoru said sometime last year, Dir en Grey will come to Europe every year from now on.
After the second concert of Gazette, Reita said "Wir kommen wieder" (We will come again).
And Mucc played 3 concerts this year, I think they have reason to come back ^_^.
I will definitely be there!

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That are REALLY GOOD news XD ...  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well I have to store some money then!! ^-^" ::) :P

Quote from: TeamAwesome on November 09, 2006, 10:10:54 AM
You know whats funny? At the Skoop on Somebody concert (it was actually Music City Tenjin, a weekend event of street side bands playing for nothing, promotional stuff) I was given a nice bag of goodies (the Japs love to give shit away), but in there I found a nice list of bands playing in Fukuoka for the next three months, and on the second page there was a nice picture of our beloved Diru, right there! Not to mention Plastic Tree, but it's getting near christmas and I am running out of money, I have saved enough for Diru, but Plastic Tree is a toughy!

I guess I'll give my own feedback on what I think about Diru when I get back from the concert eh?

as for studying abroad, go for it ;) I'm only a high school student, and their high school is freaking tough, but if you go for a college, Japanese college life seems awesome ^^

btw, you say you saw Korn AND Diru, but said Kyo's voice was coarse... KORN DAMN IT... CAPTAIN COARSE VOCAL o.O

OMG TeamAwesome Korn was absolutely amazing LIVE. I've always loved them so seeing them was absolutely wonderful for me. Though, to tell you the truth, I didn't think Kyo was so bad at vocals. I think at lives, frankly, you don't notice. They are so captivating live... I was just smiling like a lunatic, laughing, and having so much fun. I think that's why Die smiled at me cause I was truly having fun... and I think they appreciate that.

yo-chan-x, I'm so jealous! You got to see them 4 times? That's amazing! And Europe is so lucky to get Diru, Gazette, and MUCC so often! The next step is America (Gazette!!!)

Anyways, I'll keep that in mind. (The more Kyo cuts, the unhappier he is) so I'll make sure to make it a good concert for them so he won't cut as much! I'm going to see them three times for their upcoming February 2007 tour! NYC, Philly, and Baltimore! I just got my tickets and I'm hella excited!

Quote from: BLame8008 on November 14, 2006, 01:02:30 AM

yo-chan-x, I'm so jealous! You got to see them 4 times? That's amazing! And Europe is so lucky to get Diru, Gazette, and MUCC so often! The next step is America (Gazette!!!)

Anyways, I'll keep that in mind. (The more Kyo cuts, the unhappier he is) so I'll make sure to make it a good concert for them so he won't cut as much! I'm going to see them three times for their upcoming February 2007 tour! NYC, Philly, and Baltimore! I just got my tickets and I'm hella excited!

Now you'll see them 3 times too ^_^. And yes please be one of that people who doesn't cheer Kyo on to cut more... Have fun and the band will have fun as well ^_~
Yes I'm happy to live in Europe... I've got my next tickets too already... Although they are not for Dir en grey *sigh*
I'm exited to see Despa (they rock!), Marry (the first time here and their current album is my favourite one *luck*) and Kagerou (their last live *sob*, the last time Kazu gave me his pic and smiled to me ^_^ and Daisuke landed ON me as he did stagediving ^_~...)

As I saw the list of concerts in USA......  :o  @_@
At one hand I wish they would do that in Europe too, since when you see them live, you get addicted and want MORE!!!
At the other hand I would get crazy, since I couldn't afford to go for much more than 2-4 concerts (depending on the time of the year and my birthday). Also there would be other bands too and that would get me crazy as well if I couldn't go... T_T
Because every band I saw till now I liked live much more than on CD... There just is that atmosphere which the band causes with their presence and performance... I can't describe it that well. I think it's the dynamic and lively air that surrounds you combined with a lot of people who have similar pleasure by seeing the band and hear the music. The amplifier drives the bass into your system until your heartbeat beats with it... You actually can see in real how every amazing tone is produced before your very eyes... - I got carried away again T_T-

Dir en grey I know almost from their beginning... Since '98... I never thought I would see them live EVER. Now I have the presentiment I would miss any exam in favor of getting to see them... It's a bit crazy, but I slowly get the impression that every JRock fan has a little lunacy concerning their favourite bands... (Since I'll never get to see X-Japan *cries*, I stick to number 2 in my favorites...)


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Quote from: yo-chan_x on November 14, 2006, 02:34:23 AM

Quote from: BLame8008 on November 14, 2006, 01:02:30 AM

yo-chan_x, I'm so jealous! You got to see them 4 times? That's amazing! And Europe is so lucky to get Diru, Gazette, and MUCC so often! The next step is America (Gazette!!!)

Anyways, I'll keep that in mind. (The more Kyo cuts, the unhappier he is) so I'll make sure to make it a good concert for them so he won't cut as much! I'm going to see them three times for their upcoming February 2007 tour! NYC, Philly, and Baltimore! I just got my tickets and I'm hella excited!

Now you'll see them 3 times too ^_^. And yes please be one of that people who doesn't cheer Kyo on to cut more... Have fun and the band will have fun as well ^_~
Yes I'm happy to live in Europe... I've got my next tickets too already... Although they are not for Dir en grey *sigh*
I'm exited to see Despa (they rock!), Marry (the first time here and their current album is my favourite one *luck*) and Kagerou (their last live *sob*, the last time Kazu gave me his pic and smiled to me ^_^ and Daisuke landed ON me as he did stagediving ^_~...)

As I saw the list of concerts in USA......  :o  @_@
At one hand I wish they would do that in Europe too, since when you see them live, you get addicted and want MORE!!!
At the other hand I would get crazy, since I couldn't afford to go for much more than 2-4 concerts (depending on the time of the year and my birthday). Also there would be other bands too and that would get me crazy as well if I couldn't go... T_T
Because every band I saw till now I liked live much more than on CD... There just is that atmosphere which the band causes with their presence and performance... I can't describe it that well. I think it's the dynamic and lively air that surrounds you combined with a lot of people who have similar pleasure by seeing the band and hear the music. The amplifier drives the bass into your system until your heartbeat beats with it... You actually can see in real how every amazing tone is produced before your very eyes... - I got carried away again T_T-

Dir en grey I know almost from their beginning... Since '98... I never thought I would see them live EVER. Now I have the presentiment I would miss any exam in favor of getting to see them... It's a bit crazy, but I slowly get the impression that every JRock fan has a little lunacy concerning their favourite bands... (Since I'll never get to see X-Japan *cries*, I stick to number 2 in my favorites...)


@-,-'--

Wow, that's quite a line-up in Europe. D'espairs Ray, Merry (OMG, so jealous, Merii is SO GOOD) and Kagerou (their last live? That doesn't mean what I think it means does it?). And whoa, for Daisuke to land ON you too... too crazy. This is why I love concerts. You can never predict what's going to happen.

OMG, I know. Since I live on the east coast, I just couldn't stop myself from going to three different venues. It's very addicting and money-consuming. At one hand, I don't like it because it fuels my craziness. On the other hand, I know I wouldn't be satisfied with just one concert (I almost died when I only went to ONE FVT concert)

I'm finding that if you can rock it live, then I'll love you all the more for it. I've become a complete concert junkie because of Dir en Grey... so I figure they should take responsability and make their tour so friggin awesome when February comes around that I won't be able to say a coherent word for weeks, lolz. Which I know they will do because they are so absolutely amazing live. When everybody's enjoying the stage antics and the band, and the music is blasting so loud you can't even hear yourself, it's at that moment you find out if that band truly loves music or not. And Dir en Grey does. And that deserves so much respect. I really, truly love them. (Ah, the power of Lives.)

I'm ready to miss school for them... which I will be doing for Baltimore and Philly. Really, what happens more often, Dir en Grey touring America on their own@?@?@#?#$ or Class? Further more, I think I'd hate myself if I only stayed cause of class. As long as I keep on top of things, that should be fine.

My next goal is to see Gazette. No joke, my most favorite band in the whole world cannot do anything until I've seen them live. But for now, I'll concentrate on these upcoming concerts. Everytime I think about it, I get pysched all over again. Concerts are a wonderful thing  ;D

hmm all these talk about grey in US, does anyone know the song lineup for the 2007 concerts ??? ? my friends and i want to go see them, but we are more into their withering to death album type of songs (runs and hides xDDD) so any info would be helpful and thanx in advance >.<

Quote from: krimzflame00 on January 03, 2007, 04:11:00 AM
hmm all these talk about grey in US, does anyone know the song lineup for the 2007 concerts ??? ? my friends and i want to go see them, but we are more into their withering to death album type of songs (runs and hides xDDD) so any info would be helpful and thanx in advance >.<

I'm going to the S.F. show!  I'm so excited.  Nowadays, Deg plays mostly VULGAR and Withering to death. stuff, so hopefully that'll satisfy you.  I like their newer stuff also.  ^_^

I posted the following yesterday on the Jpopmusic forums.


This is the setlist from one of the Inward Scream '06 shows:

【SET LIST】
・G.D.S
・THE FATAL BELIEVER
・凌辱の雨 (Ryoujoku No Ame)
・GARBAGE
・Mr.NEWSMAN
・Agitated Screams of Maggots
・C
・朔ーsakuー
・愛しさは腐敗につき (Itoshisa Ha Fuhai Ni Tsuki)
・孤独に死す、故に孤独 (Kodoku Ni Shisu, Yue Ni Kodoku)
・Spilled Milk
・かすみ (Kasumi)
・THE FINAL
・新曲 (New Song)
・Merciless Cult
・dead tree
・Obscure

【EN】
・Jesus Christ R'n R
・鼓動 (Kodou)
・audience Killer Loop
・THE ⅢD EMPIRE
・CLEVER SLEAZOID


So I'm thinking that the American shows will be similar with some songs from the new album.

Why are people still like this band is beyond me.

Don't flame/back lash against me it's just a statement.
I don't intend to belittle any of you, I just find it funny people can still find their music slightly enjoyable seeing as their 10 years of sheer greatness has been ruined in less than one full year.

It's just my opinion don't get pissed off about it.
;)

woo, nice thanx for the info. now i really gotta think about it hard xDDD, whether to go or not, and hopefully the NYC show is not sold out by the time i decide. Thanks again. :D

Quote from: Saito.Sama on January 03, 2007, 07:50:13 AM
I'm going to the S.F. show!  I'm so excited.  Nowadays, Deg plays mostly VULGAR and Withering to death. stuff, so hopefully that'll satisfy you.  I like their newer stuff also.  ^_^

I posted the following yesterday on the Jpopmusic forums.


This is the setlist from one of the Inward Scream '06 shows:

【SET LIST】
・G.D.S
・THE FATAL BELIEVER
・凌辱の雨 (Ryoujoku No Ame)
・GARBAGE
・Mr.NEWSMAN
・Agitated Screams of Maggots
・C
・朔ーsakuー
・愛しさは腐敗につき (Itoshisa Ha Fuhai Ni Tsuki)
・孤独に死す、故に孤独 (Kodoku Ni Shisu, Yue Ni Kodoku)
・Spilled Milk
・かすみ (Kasumi)
・THE FINAL
・新曲 (New Song)
・Merciless Cult
・dead tree
・Obscure

【EN】
・Jesus Christ R'n R
・鼓動 (Kodou)
・audience Killer Loop
・THE ⅢD EMPIRE
・CLEVER SLEAZOID


So I'm thinking that the American shows will be similar with some songs from the new album.

Oh, w00t!

Thats awesome!
I love Merciless Cult, C, saku and stuff like THE FINAL.

I'm gonna see them in play in their NYC show, in The Nokia Theatre.

I got my ticket, like two weeks ago...

Agh, the wait is killing me x_x

The shows' in Feb~

Quote from: krimzflame00 on January 03, 2007, 06:47:16 PM
woo, nice thanx for the info. now i really gotta think about it hard xDDD, whether to go or not, and hopefully the NYC show is not sold out by the time i decide. Thanks again. :D

Ohh~ you should go..

I mean, last time I checked for ticketmaster(but its cheaper to get them up front at the box office) there're still available.

I got them back in November because I thought they would sell out, but thankfully they haven't even 'til today. ;)

I'll be at the NYC show too. I'm not TOO fond of WtD stuff, but I'm not completely opposed to all of it. Plus, I'd like to hear some of the new material live as well.

I'll probably be adding people from here, randomly, if I feel like it, to my AIM or MSN to discuss possibly meetups or whatever since those are always fun.

Quote from: Formless on January 04, 2007, 08:51:36 PM
I'll be at the NYC show too. I'm not TOO fond of WtD stuff, but I'm not completely opposed to all of it. Plus, I'd like to hear some of the new material live as well.

I'll probably be adding people from here, randomly, if I feel like it, to my AIM or MSN to discuss possibly meetups or whatever since those are always fun.

Thats cool that you're going~

And hey..

If you get squished up there in the front, I'll come up and beat some fangirl ass for you xDDDD

Ahhh... kidding, kidding.
I'm a tiny little thing, I couldn't hurt anything~.. honest.

I'm trying to go up in front of the line, because I will not have what happened in the D'ray CBGB show happen to me again.

Where there was like a modest five people in front of us when we got there.

And by 7:30, when the show was about to start, that modest five people turned into about thirty, not joking around. It was completely messed up.

sorry im super late to this topic, im a crazy newb to this board.

i saw Dir en Grey at Family Values, and to be honest, i wasnt expecting Kyo to be right on with everything, i was seriously expecting him to be tired and just stop singing at tons of random points.

however, this was not the case. everything was straight on. he hit the high notes in Saku that i didnt think he'd make it to, and he sang every note to the chorus of The Final. i was pleasantly surprised.

now in my opinion, i think the times he does lack the live vocal ability, its just because the dude is tired from playing with all his energy everyday. it happens with tons of bands. it may just seem like that more for Dir en Grey just because they have so much exposure. i mean, you can look up one song by them on Youtube and find like 6 different live performances of it. theres easy odds that not every performance will be perfect.

however, i also must add that his stage presense seems to lack a little now. yeah, he does the fishhooking, and he does the scratching, and even puts a bucket on his head, but i miss seeing videos of him spewing quarts of fake vomit and being covered in heavy burn makeup. but i guess that also has to do with the direction they are moving into. they probably think that in their newer evolved sound there isnt much space for the shock elements they used to do so often.

and thats that.

I slightly remember in the more faster songs all he did was scream instead of singing the actual lyrics, which to me was stupid.

I got invited to see them at the Roxy Theater...
Don't know if I'm going to go..

Is it [just] Dir en grey?
Maybe he wont just scream-o everything to death this time around..

anyone seen them in the US for Inward Scream yet? im going in 2 days.

Yeah, i saw them last Saturday. It was really great!!!! I also saw them in LA in '06, and I think that they played better this time.

i'm going to he NYC show ^^ 5 more days left ..can't wait~!

got my show wednesday!  ;D

Quote from: lainxwired on February 05, 2007, 10:40:50 PM
Yeah, i saw them last Saturday. It was really great!!!! I also saw them in LA in '06, and I think that they played better this time.

do you have the setlist written up? i wanna get an idea to what they are playing...

I really can't remember the setlist. Im sorry. The songs agitated screams of maggots and right after, Obscure, stick out though cause they had the videos in the back playing too.

ok i went to the show in Boston the other night, and i couldnt memorize the setlist, but this is what i think it is.. (all the songs are right, but the order might be a bit jumbled)

-Setlist-
G.D.S
The Fatal Believer
Agitated Screams of Maggots
Mr Newsman
Saku
Grief
The Deeper Vileness
Kodoku Ni Shisu Yueni Kodoku
Itoshisa Wa Fufai Nitsuki (with a changed vocal arrangement)
Obscure
Merciless Cult
Shokubeni
Ryoujoku no Ame
The Final
Dead Tree

-Encore-
C
Garbage
The IIID Empire
Clever Sleazoid

it was a really good show aside from the stupid little bitches trying to push their way up to the front. i was in the second "row", and i caught Kaoru's water bottle  ;D I also got to buy 5 Ugly Kingdom and Average Fury as well as some shirts, but they didnt have Six Ugly or Average Psycho  :-\

what was the price of the albums and shirts. im going to the one in tempe on the 21st and i want to know how much money to carry with me

Quote from: Legato on February 10, 2007, 07:12:18 AM
what was the price of the albums and shirts. im going to the one in tempe on the 21st and i want to know how much money to carry with me

there are two tour shirts, both are 25. they only full length cd they had was the US release of Withering to Death, which was like 15 i think. they also had the singles for Ryoujoku no Ame and Agitated Screams of Maggots which were both 12. they also randomly had the remix cd Kai for 30.

all i have to sa is i need to make a shirt that says ...

"I survived the NYC pit @ dir en grey inward scream 07"


because the pit was fucking brutal.... and i'm short and not very strong ... and by the time agitated screams of maggot started i was surrounded by burly guys and diesel girls ....and all the poor little girls were being taken out one by one xD i mean the madness started as soon a flipin bleed the dream came on >.< iono before the show started i took off my earrings and was like ...I have a bad feeling turned to my friend and my sister said take off your earrings and they looked like what o.O why? and then when the crowd surged forward and after the first song was done the earrings were out and everyone looked scared and like WTF? out of my group of about 11 people ..only 4 of us remained in the pit till the end one of which actually left the pit  dring fair to midland and then came back in when diru came on >.< but anyway even though it was fucking brutal ...dir en grey themselves were freaken awesome ^^  ..the pit was better at FVT but dir en grey was far better here for sure >.< i think they were totally feeding off the crazyness of the crowd because it seemed like everytime a little girl got taken out the pit he got crazier and more energetic lol ...anyway i guess i'll say more about the show later ...i'm still tired...have an assignment due for Ap english and my throat is and face is sore as hell xD ...but it was worth it xD

Here's the NYC setlist that I took down last night.


G.D.S.
The Fatal Believer
Agitated Screams of Maggots
Mr. NEWSMAN
The Deeper Vileness
-saku-
GRIEF
Itoshisa ha fuhai ni tsuki (new version)
Kodoku ni shisu, yueni kodoku
OBSCURE
Ryoujoku no Ame
audience KILLER LOOP
Merciless Cult
The Final
dead tree
-encore-
C
The IIID Empire
Beautiful Dirt
CLEVER SLEAZOID

the only thing is that C was actually part of the encore =]

also what did you think of the show? did you have fun ;3

damn i really wanted to hear Beautiful Dirt. oh well, at Boston i got Garbage instead, which is also a great song. that was one of the only differences in sets between the Boston and New York show. that switch and the switch of Shokubeni at the Boston show and Audience Killer Loop at NY (but i didnt care too much since i already saw them play Audience Killer Loop at FVT)

Quote from: doaseternity6 on February 12, 2007, 02:10:18 AM
the only thing is that C was actually part of the encore =]

also what did you think of the show? did you have fun ;3

Yeah, I was wondering that. I thought it was, but I wasn't sure, but that's the correct order at least!

I had fun for the most part. Not the best concert I've been to. Pretty mediocre. Not great, but not bad! Just good. I'm an avid concert goer, so I'm hard to please unless there's an incredible setlist and insane lightshow.

that's true i wished they had played shokubeni o.O that would have been awesome ...but eh A.K.L. is always fun xD


@formless:  that's cool ..it's only the third concert i've been too so i guess i'm not as experienced with them... so for me it was the best one i've been too... it was alot of fun and also since i was basically out on the line since 7:30 with my friends ( i actually woke up at 4:00 since i takes about an 1hr and a half and then the train left very late >.<) ... it was soo much fun out there with them but actually dammit after all those hours in the cold i was intent on having the best time i could ...

I wonder if maybe it would've been better had i gone with 2 of my friends on the 2nd level but iono it still ended up being pretty damn awesome even though instead of having my full attention on the show i also had to figure out how to survive lol

I can't believe I lived :P

First off it was cold as fuck and I got there a couple hours early so I could get up to the stage.  It was snowing and I actually started to worry if I'd get frost bite lol.  It was probably like 10 degrees; but it felt like 0 or 2.

I was at the concert in Detroit and man it was CRAZY!!!  It wasn't really bad until Fair to Midland (which may I add sucked) got off and people knew Dir en grey was next.  People started pushing from one side so they could get the equipment off stage and then when that was over people started pushing from the other side and then the front and the back.  I was about 10ft from the stage and in the middle with my two very short girl friends and my brother who is about 6ft1in and very strong might I add.

My body was seriously getting contorted and I swore if people pushed on me anymore I would've been smothered or had my wrist broken.  It was so hot I felt as if I was going to pass out and so many people were pushing that with all the weight being put on me I fell to the ground.  Some people were actually shouting "Someone fell stop pushing!"  But it didn't make much of a difference.  Thankfully my friend who was close enough and some guy helped me to my feet.  I didn't bother to take my earrings out and I wear glasses; now that I think about it I'm very lucky my earrings didn't get pulled out or my glasses falling off and getting broken.  As it was my jacket was getting pulled off of me.

When Dir en grey came on it got worse and when the first song started and people started jumping I couldn't take it and I was getting hurt.  My entire right arm and leg are really sore as well as my back.  It was a task to get out of there but I was able to.  My younger brother was actually really worried and later said at one point he saw my face and then people moved and I disappeared and he could see my friends and I being pushed from side to side.  As I was saying; thanks to him and using his giant strength; he pushed people out of the way and cleared a path.

Thankfully there was a balcony that went around the perimeter of the club and it wasn't too packed so we all went up there and could actually -see- Dir en grey and had lots of room to move around and could actually sit and lean on the railing and have a really good time.  We were still in the middle and not too far away.  Actually we were still very close, the venue wasn't that big.  But we could see the mosh pit we -were- in and were thankful we got out.    At one point people were throwing fists and in the back of the crowd was this circular opening  where inside people were thrashing violently into each other; at one point this one guy picked up another by his arms and swung him around so he could kick out both feet at eye level.  People were being carried out by bouncers and EMS and I just kept thinking to myself how I was so glad to be where I was.

It was a little sad when Shinya threw out drumsticks to the crowd where we were.  There were guitar picks being thrown into the crowd and water bottles and I was like 'damn I was there' but I know I wouldn't have been able to catch anything and might've gotten beat up if I had.  On top of that people weren't allowed to keep the bottles anyways.  $500 fine if you did.  The only souvenier I bought was the leather wrist band that said DIRENGREY for $10.  But more memorable then that will be the mosh pit and firm reminder that if I go to a concert like this again that I am not someone who should be in the mosh pit.  There were just too many dick heads there (big tall heavy guys pushing on everyone and getting a kick out of it).  People got hurt and the majority of them didn't give a shit.

Despite it all Dir en grey was awesome and so much better then the FVT concert in Detroit.  I also felt that Kyo and rest were really into the performance more so then at FVT.  I thought Kyo was great.  Actually I thought all the guys performed great.  Everyone just seemed really into it.  Minus the mosh pit; I had a very VERY good time and would love to see Dir en grey again given the chance.

yeah i was really pissed off at all the pushing and shoving at the Boston show (it was worse than any other concert ive been to) so i think next time i see them, i'll either make sure im first there so i can be right in front and wont have to worry about people pushing through, or i'll just be out of the way like to a side or on a balcony.

Yumeko pretty much summed it all up for the Michigan show, Best thing I have ever seen. But yeah the pit in the center was crazy, it just keep getting bigger and wider and you could not escape it.

^ yah lol.  I was trying so -so- hard not to grope the asses of the guys around me.  But I don't know why I worried so much about that.  People were groping me.  One of the things that pissed me off at one point was this girl who turned to me and said "I'm going to use you as a brace."  And I'm thinking to myself fuck no.  I was right in the middle; I felt like the keystone to the entire pit, everyone's weight was on me.  I wish I had gone up to the balcony earlier tho; because if I had gotten all the way in the front to the side I still might've been able to catch something.  Where I moved to on the balcony was the first row in the very back a little to the Kyo's right; so almost in the center.  Where you were Kaoru-d?

Well I  started half way between the sound board and the stage off to the right hand side. but by the end of the night I was pretty much standing at the right front side of the sound board. pretty much I was always on the outer back wall of the pit, I kept moving back and it just kept following me once I got to the sound board that was It had to stand my ground for the encore cause I was not missing a moment of that. I told my girlfriend when we got inside "you know there is someone from tonberry somewhere out here in this mess."

I had a shitty time at the Nokia Theatre Dir en Grey show on the 10th.
=/

After that, I'm probably never going to another Dir en Grey concert ever...

'Sides their recent songs have been shit(in my oppinon), D'espairs Ray FAR surpassed them in live performances >>;

In the D'espairs Ray concert, I felt their music, and I enjoyed it... I had new-found respect for them after I saw them live.

I think Dir en Grey's at a point in their musical carrer where its like 'Fuck it, we can play shit right now and you'd still love us.' .. thats what I felt from their concert.

Anyways... within the concert, the opening acts were playing, and I don't know why by people felt the need to jump, shove and push.

I was thinking 'why the fuck are they jumping?! these bands are shit'...
My sister was protecting me from most of the abuse. But we fell down when someone from our left shoved us hard.

I fell on her, then all I saw was black.. all I heard was just shouting and people shoving more.

And then I felt people climbing over us to get closer to the stage. Had the nerve to step on us and everything.

I then heard my sister screaming, so I started to kick/push/shove anyone what was on top on me to get to her.

Someone had been standing on her foot, twisting it so badly they sprained it.

After that, my sister and I made our way to the back, where the seats were located.

Man, I should've gone there in the beginning, when my sister warned me the first time.

I felt so bad, getting my sister hurt like that. I mean, she didn't even want to COME.. she hates my music, but she did it cause she knew it would make me happy.

Anyways, back there, with TV moniters hoisted up above us I saw everything that was happening on the stage. From every angle.

It was so much better than down by the stage.

Pfft, so what... so people got to touch Die or Kaoru... I don't think it would've been worth it to stay in that mosh pit.
'sides those stupid fangirls couldn't even keep those water bottles they had to claw/bite/stratch to get, that part really made me laugh =D

And after hearing accounts on here, I'm glad I got out so early...

Like I said, I'm never going to another DeG concert again... DeG fans like that are such dickheads.

It was SO not worth the 40 bucks and 10 hours I stood on line for...

I wish D'espairs Ray would come back to NYC!
I loved them so much~

THOUGH!

There WERE some part in the concert I liked.

Kyo's little dance he would do when he wasn't singing/screaming/whining.
Where he would shift his hips slightly from side to side xD
That was too cute.

Also that part where he put his hands on his hips and pushed his already low-riding jeans farther down! ;3 My fangirlish-side had a fieldday with that.

And the part where Toshiya lifted the mikestand and threw it, but then got tangled in the mike wire xDD
I felt bad for the stage crew as that person kept running after Toshiya, trying to untangle him. And toshiya couldn't care less... he kept on playing xD

And the part where Toshiya and Die where playing back-to-back, that was hot~

But that bullshit rule with no pictures!

Man, I would've risked it, but I kept on seeing people getting pulled out for cameras and getting kicked out.. I didn't think it was worth it. =/

All-in-all... the music wasn't SO bad.. but my sister hated it >_<

After Kyo started stratching himself til he bled.. my sister said 'Thats fake blood, right?'... she was so disgusted when I told her it wasn't xD

But...
What the hell was with all those disturbing videos?! I already had seen -saku-, but I never wanted to see Obscure for the fact I heard it was incredibily nasty x_x
And the first video, with those child-raping maggots?...
Come on, that was just sick.

I loved the intro, with [KR]Cube ~KK Vomit Mix~, absolutely my favorite remixed song of Diru. It got me bouncing in my seat xD

These girls next to me literatly KNEW all the words to most of the songs played... it was kinda creepy, but in a cool total-fanatic sorta way.

Now all I have to look forward to is BLOOD and Candy Spooky Theater... not that impressive, but its something =_="

QuoteI told my girlfriend when we got inside "you know there is someone from tonberry somewhere out here in this mess."

haha yes there was.  But man I applaud you for sticking it out in the mosh pit; I just couldn't do it though.  It's not like I'm really short, I'm 5'6 so I guess that's like average maybe and my friends are quite a bit shorter then me.  But all the guys around me were 6ft at least and all pretty big too.  And this long curly hair dumbass guy in front of me kept purposely pushing back; I wanted to kick him between the legs so bad.  The only way I could've stayed where I was was if I was much taller and stronger.  Anywho, I feel a little silly today for how I probably looked all exhausted while people were pushing on me and then I fell and was on the verge of tears LOL; but it really was that bad.  To me at least as I'm not very experienced with concerts.  I've just never had the desire to go to many.  FVT was the first one I really wanted to go to and then this was the second but much different setting lol.  Oh well, I'd still go again; but this time I'd go on the balcony from the beginning and get a better closer spot.

QuoteAlso that part where he put his hands on his hips and pushed his already low-riding jeans farther down! ;3 My fangirlish-side had a fieldday with that.

LOL yes!  I felt like such a dork when he did that; but being with my two fangirl friends I couldn't help but over react a little with them.  It was pretty hot.  And I must admit; he looked a lot hotter at this concert then he did FVT.  My friends aren't really into Deg music, neither was my brother, but I made them all go.  Especially since my friends love jrock like me and this was a chance for all three of us to see a jrock concert together.  So I'm glad there was some fanservice for them; they're too used to Gackt LOL.  But in my group I was the only Deg fan there. 

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the concert tho.  I thought the show in Detroit was great.  His singing wasn't the best; but for the genre and for the length of the concert; I was okay with it.

yumeko your description  of the detroit show pretty much summed up the NYC show as well...oh well people are dickheads >.< but still i enjoyed myself and me and my friends had alot of fun on the line since we were there since 7:30 tehe and i had a big group ...eh we should've all banded together in the pit but we got seperated, which  sucked but oh wells ...what i don't understand is why people started pushing in the pit during bleed the dream and fair to midland ...jeez ... i was gonna conserve energy for dir but no~!i think that was kind of the point though because by the end of the night alot of the people from the back got way up to the front by wearing out all the weaker people early and getting them outta there >.< those people were crazy though... i still remember one big guy in red pretty much flung me behind him xD just like pulled me a bit by my shirt and flung me back lol  i was like o.O WTF?!?!?! oh hells no ...hahah but i couldn't do anything ...dammit i need to get a really big boyfriend to take to these shows dammit >_>

but i thought deg was pretty awesome ...they seemed really into the performance for sure ^^ and i sure as hell felt it tehe ..even though people in the crowd sucked dir was on point and i thought they all really connected with us down there... iono about up there but they sure kept us energized in the pit especially tochi who keptcoming up to us and pumping us up ^^ but then again like i said i've only been to 3 concerts one being dir @ fvt, and they were much better here, the other being d'espairsray, which was great but i'm also not the biggest d'espa fan, ... i missed Mucc *cries*, but i'm going to see blood and candyspooky theater ... who i like but just not as much >.< (MUCC comeback~!)

Wow ×One-Eyed Whore× I'm sorry your sister got so hurt. I can understand why you wouldn't want to go to another DeG concert again, if ever. It's makes me kinda sad though.

I was also at the NYC Nokia Theatre show.. and I had the time of my life. I was actually on rail... and yes, I was pushed, shove, poked HARD in the back, blah blah blah... but in the end, I was okay cause I hung on the rail as if my life depended on it. (By the way, I'm really short ~~> barely pushing 5'1" so I had to be mean when I had to be...)  But NY's crowd was VERY scary. I mean, I went to Baltimore and Philly and BOTH weren't half as bad as NY.

Actually I think NY was by far the venue with the MOST fainters... average of about 40 people? Previously, Florida was the only other venue that had fainters.. and they only had 10.

Thinking about it, I was actually going to invite a family friend to come with me to the show. Now.. I'm glad that I convinced him not to go. I never thought it was going to be as bad as that.

But besides the crowd, I LOVED Dir en grey's performance. My buddies and I were DREADING the fact that Diru might not perform all out since the crazy fangirls-chasing-the-band-into-the-venue fiasco when Diru first arrived and all the fainters BEFORE Diru even appeared on stage.

But man, when Kyo came on stage, crouched over his crate and put his hands together, as if in prayer, to calm us down... everything just got better. I'm glad you enjoyed the hip dance and the stage antics. And I really hope you consider seeing them again. They really are an amazing band on stage... grr, crazed fangirls/boys.

doaseternity6

you new yorkers are lucky!  Nobody (jrockers) ever comes to michigan.  The only reason I think Deg came to Detroit was for the bragging rights.  But I don't care; at least I got to see them and twice.  They didn't have to come to dirty ol detroit; but they did and twice; so I think they're awesome for that.

Quote from: Yumeko on February 14, 2007, 03:55:28 AM
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I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the concert tho.  I thought the show in Detroit was great.  His singing wasn't the best; but for the genre and for the length of the concert; I was okay with it.

Quote from: BLame8008 on February 14, 2007, 11:34:10 PM
Wow ×One-Eyed Whore× I'm sorry your sister got so hurt. I can understand why you wouldn't want to go to another DeG concert again, if ever. It's makes me kinda sad though.

I was also at the NYC Nokia Theatre show.. and I had the time of my life. I was actually on rail... and yes, I was pushed, shove, poked HARD in the back, blah blah blah... but in the end, I was okay cause I hung on the rail as if my life depended on it. (By the way, I'm really short ~~> barely pushing 5'1" so I had to be mean when I had to be...)  But NY's crowd was VERY scary. I mean, I went to Baltimore and Philly and BOTH weren't half as bad as NY.

Actually I think NY was by far the venue with the MOST fainters... average of about 40 people? Previously, Florida was the only other venue that had fainters.. and they only had 10.

Thinking about it, I was actually going to invite a family friend to come with me to the show. Now.. I'm glad that I convinced him not to go. I never thought it was going to be as bad as that.

But besides the crowd, I LOVED Dir en grey's performance. My buddies and I were DREADING the fact that Diru might not perform all out since the crazy fangirls-chasing-the-band-into-the-venue fiasco when Diru first arrived and all the fainters BEFORE Diru even appeared on stage.

But man, when Kyo came on stage, crouched over his crate and put his hands together, as if in prayer, to calm us down... everything just got better. I'm glad you enjoyed the hip dance and the stage antics. And I really hope you consider seeing them again. They really are an amazing band on stage... grr, crazed fangirls/boys.

Aw! Thanks for all your concern ^_^

I did really enjoy myself, after I got outta that hellpit, that is.

I have to admit, seeing Dir en Grey live was really something.
Its one thing to listen to their music and watch them live on the computer... Kyo has such an impressive presence on stage.

Even though I dislike their new songs, I have to give it to DeG to really play all out.

I'll probably go to another DeG concert if they play at somewhere like Nokia Theatre... just with out that stupid no-pictures policy, but with those comfy seats xD

I like 5'0"... so I'm pretty sure if I want my health in check, I better stay outta DeG mosh pits >_<

I'm just so pissed I could be down there enjoying the music with everyone.. that part kinda sucked.

I love being next to everyone, jumping like an idiot xD
But with that type of concert, I don't think its possible =/

My favorite part was Kyo chanting, it was oddly entracing @_@
xD His voice was so hypnotic! And you're right, the crowd sorta calmed down.

I didn't know there were so many fainters.. I thought those people were being taken out for cameras.. damn, that sucks.. I hope no one got SERIOUSLY hurt, fainting in general isn't a good thing.


I just wish people in those types of situations would have more human decency >_<
instead of stepping on people..

I'm going to the BLOOD and Candy Spooky Theatre as well... I dont like either, but a concert's a concert..
and last time in the BLOOD concert, it was awesome.
I got to SO feel up Fu~ki while he was singing  xD
It was pretty funny, because fangirls were pulling him into the crowd, but he kept on singing like all was normal.

Knitting Factory sucks, but at least I can take pictures =/

Quote from: ×One-Eyed Whore× on February 17, 2007, 02:23:34 AM
Aw! Thanks for all your concern ^_^

I did really enjoy myself, after I got outta that hellpit, that is.

I have to admit, seeing Dir en Grey live was really something.
Its one thing to listen to their music and watch them live on the computer... Kyo has such an impressive presence on stage.

Even though I dislike their new songs, I have to give it to DeG to really play all out.

I'll probably go to another DeG concert if they play at somewhere like Nokia Theatre... just with out that stupid no-pictures policy, but with those comfy seats xD

I like 5'0"... so I'm pretty sure if I want my health in check, I better stay outta DeG mosh pits >_<

I'm just so pissed I could be down there enjoying the music with everyone.. that part kinda sucked.

I love being next to everyone, jumping like an idiot xD
But with that type of concert, I don't think its possible =/

My favorite part was Kyo chanting, it was oddly entracing @_@
xD His voice was so hypnotic! And you're right, the crowd sorta calmed down.

I didn't know there were so many fainters.. I thought those people were being taken out for cameras.. damn, that sucks.. I hope no one got SERIOUSLY hurt, fainting in general isn't a good thing.


I just wish people in those types of situations would have more human decency >_<
instead of stepping on people..

I'm going to the BLOOD and Candy Spooky Theatre as well... I dont like either, but a concert's a concert..
and last time in the BLOOD concert, it was awesome.
I got to SO feel up Fu~ki while he was singing  xD
It was pretty funny, because fangirls were pulling him into the crowd, but he kept on singing like all was normal.

Knitting Factory sucks, but at least I can take pictures =/

Haha, well as me and my buddies liked to say, Dir en grey is absolutely GODLY on stage.

The good thing about Nokia was the fact that they actually had THE BEST security out of all the venues. A lot of American venues don't seem to understand that JUST because the band is Japanese.... they're still a Japanese ROCK band... So no matter how many times we warn them that they should up security and be prepared.... they shrug us off.. and then something like Nokia (God forbids) happens, and the shit hits the fan. You gotta admit, Nokia Theater's security was really good.

And I wasn't too peeved for not having a camera.. though I would have loved to take pictures. I know that Diru hates getting their pics taken.. except from professionals, so, oh well.

Funny thing is, there's always ambulances outside the venues when Dir en grey performs. And you know, it's kind of comforting that they're there. DeG craziness...

cool can't wait to see you there xone eyed whoreX my friend went to see BLOOD last time ...i was supposed to go but i had just gotten out of the hospital a few weeks before that and had to recover -sigh-

oh well i hope it will be fun ^^ i head that the knittining factory stage is really really close to the fans and like people were falling all up on the stage and you could like literally reach up and touch xD

but ne way i agree with you it's fun to jump around and headbang and feel the mnusic and all the fun stuff in the pit but it was really hard to down there ...I swear when kyo and tochi were screaming "Jump, Jump, jump" it was nearly impossible down there ... it was like jumping on each other ...

and yes there  had to be at least that many people taken out cuz they couldn't breath ... left and right ...i mean right after the first few bleed the dream songs people were already coming out -sigh-

yea NYorkers are scary but ...i should've known that going in xD i think the same thing was said about the first time deg came here in NY and LA that the Ny crowd was like 10x scarier and worst than LA lol

awww it;s okay yumeko *hugs* ... I'm soo gonna use my magical powers to kidnap you and bring you to new york xD ...on second thought...maybe I'll transport us both to LA...so we don't die in the pit xD

omg , they sound awful live. That's all the justification I need to never see them live again. =/

Quote from: doaseternity6 on February 20, 2007, 03:57:58 AMawww it;s okay yumeko *hugs* ... I'm soo gonna use my magical powers to kidnap you and bring you to new york xD ...on second thought...maybe I'll transport us both to LA...so we don't die in the pit xD

YAY for magical powers and kidnapping and concerts!  Sounds like a lot of fun!!! ^______^

I love how you people act surprised when you get in a mosh pit, get knocked over, and proceed to get trampled at a fucking rock concert. What do you expect, rainbows, flowers, and people holding your hands? Jesus Christ.

Quote from: idolcrash on February 22, 2007, 11:04:05 PM
I love how you people act surprised when you get in a mosh pit, get knocked over, and proceed to get trampled at a fucking rock concert. What do you expect, rainbows, flowers, and people holding your hands? Jesus Christ.

That's a very ignorant and exaggerated statement.

Quote from: idolcrash on February 22, 2007, 11:04:05 PM
I love how you people act surprised when you get in a mosh pit, get knocked over, and proceed to get trampled at a fucking rock concert. What do you expect, rainbows, flowers, and people holding your hands? Jesus Christ.

mosh pits arent for trampling people. they are to push around and have fun and get pumped up. in the past 10 years people have must of thought it was cool to throw punches in a pit. its not. its a completely fucking different thing to do so. pits arent for violence, its not a fucking Black Flag concert.

the pit at the Tempe AZ concert was fun.  even me and my friends who usually dont do pits got into it during Obscure.

It's not like i haven't been in a pit before but this was just fucking ridiculous ... why pay money to fight in the pit ...I payed my fucking money to have fun and enjoy the band and see the band perform to be down there and feel the music not to put up with some asshat fan who thinks a pit is just and excuse to punch someone... it's fucking retarded and immature and if your gonna do that go spend you money somewhere else or become a boxer or smth shit

@legato: i'm glad you had fun at tempe ..i have a friend who went to that concert he said it was freaking awesome 

QuoteThat's a very ignorant and exaggerated statement.

Look up ignorant and exaggerated in a dictionary before using them opposite their meanings.

Quotemosh pits arent for trampling people.

No, but OMGWTF it happens and is to be expected. Pits aren't well-regulated organized dances. Go to some shitty club if you want that.

Quotein the past 10 years people have must of thought it was cool to throw punches in a pit

I know, and I don't care, because I'm one of those people (I think the word is normal) who can ignore the faggots and still have a good time bashing in the pit.

Quotepits arent for violence, its not a fucking Black Flag concert.

They aren't for fucking.

QuoteIt's not like i haven't been in a pit before but this was just fucking ridiculous ... why pay money to fight in the pit ...I payed my fucking money to have fun and enjoy the band and see the band perform to be down there and feel the music not to put up with some asshat fan who thinks a pit is just and excuse to punch someone... it's fucking retarded and immature and if your gonna do that go spend you money somewhere else or become a boxer or smth shit

Or you can magically stay out of the pit. I went to concerts from when I was in the elementary school (seriously), and from my first concert I was able to stay away from a pit. It isn't really that fucking difficult, if you don't want to be in it, stay away from it or, better yet, don't go to a rock concert. Thankfully I doubt I'll see you at any of the concerts I attend (or play).

lol, seriously. I agree with idolcrash...stay out of the pit. This band isn't a para-para band anymore, it's a fucking hard rock/metal band, and their music isn't happy..it's angry and powerful. Go to the side of the venue, or go on the balcony like I did. My venue [House of blues: Orlando] was great. I was on the balcony, but I was five feet from the band. I enjoyed the music, AND saw them perfectly. I don't know why you girls are so shocked that you would be getting hurt from these concerts, especially when the type of music that they play is MOSH-PIT type music.

Quote from: idolcrash on February 24, 2007, 03:48:11 AM

QuoteThat's a very ignorant and exaggerated statement.

Look up ignorant and exaggerated in a dictionary before using them opposite their meanings.

I know what they mean.  And I stand by what I said.  Your whole "rainbows and holding hands" comment was in fact ignorant and exaggerated.  I never said I expected that.  And up until Deg came out; there was no mosh pit.  Just because people 'expect' there to be a mosh-pit and accept that doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior.  I agree with 無限の花, I paid my money to have fun, to 'see' the band, and enjoy their performance.  If you want to fault me for that then fine.  I don't really care what you think.  And if you want to continue flaming people then maybe start a new thread in the flame pit because this forum isn't the place to be getting your kicks off of pissing people off and acting like a smartass.  Nobody wants to hear it.  I'm not saying you have to agree; your free to feel the way you do; but there are more polite ways of putting it instead of saying things in such a way to cause offense.  But I'm of the impression you just like start shit and then sit back and watch the show or throw little jabs to keep it going.  So I'm not going to fall into that trap and I hope everyone else will let it end here.  I'm sure the person that started this thread would appreciate it not turning into something it wasn't intended to be.

In what way did Idolcrash flame you? I think you're taking what he's saying as an insult, and maybe you shouldn't. He's speaking the truth with what he says.


and to the one-eyed-whore girl....yea sorry your sis got hurt, but...maybe you should just go to a concert by yourself next time, and then avoid the floor. Obviously, it seems you're not equipped to handle it.

i think the all in all point is...

dir en grey isnt moshing music. if you think they are, pay attention to the lyrics, because you're wrong.  ;D

can we start blocking people now?

Quote from: signal to noise on February 24, 2007, 06:25:48 AM

dir en grey isnt moshing music. if you think they are, pay attention to the lyrics, because you're wrong.  ;D

..............AHAHAHA.

Quote from: Karasu on February 24, 2007, 07:24:12 AM

Quote from: signal to noise on February 24, 2007, 06:25:48 AM

dir en grey isnt moshing music. if you think they are, pay attention to the lyrics, because you're wrong.  ;D

..............AHAHAHA.

Quote from: signal to noise on February 24, 2007, 06:25:48 AM
can we start blocking people now?

I have to admit , for people to consider them metal. They have some weak ass pits. DeG isn't moshing music , I was ammused at FVT that people were standing there , and the actual pit didn't start til' Deftones and Korn. =/ You need power metal or really heavy metal to get a really good mosh pit , or good punk , etc... I've been to two too many DeG shows and thier fans are all "don't touch me , I have to be pretty for Shinya"... and if that's the case go to the stands because it ruins the excitement of the pit.

Me personally I love being in the pit for shows , esp for bands like Megaherz , Rammstien , Metallica , Bad Religion etc...
Alot of people can't handle the pit , good for them DeG is some mellow music.

Alot of my friends use the seating instead of being up front in the pit area where all the action is. Too each thier own I say. =0

Quote from: Archaenon on February 24, 2007, 08:42:40 AM
I have to admit , for people to consider them metal. They have some weak ass pits. DeG isn't moshing music , I was ammused at FVT that people were standing there , and the actual pit didn't start til' Deftones and Korn. =/ You need power metal or really heavy metal to get a really good mosh pit , or good punk , etc... I've been to two too many DeG shows and thier fans are all "don't touch me , I have to be pretty for Shinya"... and if that's the case go to the stands because it ruins the excitement of the pit.

Me personally I love being in the pit for shows , esp for bands like Megaherz , Rammstien , Metallica , Bad Religion etc...
Alot of people can't handle the pit , good for them DeG is some mellow music.

Alot of my friends use the seating instead of being up front in the pit area where all the action is. Too each thier own I say. =0

my mind too ... I like to be in front of the concert and "feel" the power the music gives to us, the mass in the (you called so) pit-area XD! I really dont understand that "Im-sitting-at-the-side-until-the-end" People! damn, why they just watch a DVD? cant get it in my head ... never O_o  ::)

PS: the DeG (wha 2 years ago ... no money ;_; but this year for sure, MoaB yeah, want it live >_<")  con I was was great and alot of the fans just wanted to have fun "WITH" band and music not just be pretty for!

QuoteYour whole "rainbows and holding hands" comment was in fact ignorant and exaggerated.  I never said I expected that.

At least quote that which you are referring, then. That was exaggerated, but it was not ignorant. I have a feeling I've been to (and played at) far more shows than you have and know how rock shows work.

QuoteQuote from: signal to noise on Today at 06:25:48 am

dir en grey isnt moshing music. if you think they are, pay attention to the lyrics, because you're wrong.  Grin



..............AHAHAHA.

Quoted for truth.

QuoteJust because people 'expect' there to be a mosh-pit and accept that doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior.

Then, again, stay home and watch a DVD or something. It's the same thing.

QuoteAnd if you want to continue flaming people then maybe start a new thread in the flame pit because this forum isn't the place to be getting your kicks off of pissing people off and acting like a smartass.  Nobody wants to hear it.  I'm not saying you have to agree; your free to feel the way you do; but there are more polite ways of putting it instead of saying things in such a way to cause offense.

I'm flaming now? Hahahaha if that pisses you off I recommend some professional help. Apparently people don't mind hearing it, especially when they are agreeing with me :)

QuoteAnd up until Deg came out; there was no mosh pit.

Shittier bands?

Quote from: maru on February 24, 2007, 03:04:26 PM

Quote from: Archaenon on February 24, 2007, 08:42:40 AM
I have to admit , for people to consider them metal. They have some weak ass pits. DeG isn't moshing music , I was ammused at FVT that people were standing there , and the actual pit didn't start til' Deftones and Korn. =/ You need power metal or really heavy metal to get a really good mosh pit , or good punk , etc... I've been to two too many DeG shows and thier fans are all "don't touch me , I have to be pretty for Shinya"... and if that's the case go to the stands because it ruins the excitement of the pit.

Me personally I love being in the pit for shows , esp for bands like Megaherz , Rammstien , Metallica , Bad Religion etc...
Alot of people can't handle the pit , good for them DeG is some mellow music.

Alot of my friends use the seating instead of being up front in the pit area where all the action is. Too each thier own I say. =0

my mind too ... I like to be in front of the concert and "feel" the power the music gives to us, the mass in the (you called so) pit-area XD! I really dont understand that "Im-sitting-at-the-side-until-the-end" People! damn, why they just watch a DVD? cant get it in my head ... never O_o  ::)

that's why i refuse to get out of the pit =] i can't sit on the side or balcony i want to be up there and feel the music ...

of course in the pit there will be pushing and jumping and wild behavior but what was going on that night went far beyond what was expected...when your just trampling little girls for no fucking reason that's just stupid >_> like seriously and then when people were trying to get out ...people wouldn't let them out ?!?!? it's like wtf? they're all preaching if you can't handle the pit get out but then when people were trying to leave they wouldn't let them out and were still acting like asshats ... personally i can handle that shit that's why i didn't leave the pit ...i payed my money to be down there and enjoy the music right there in front of me not sit on the side ...like maru said i might as well buy the DVD if i wanted to do that ... but it doesn't make it right and i'm sorry but i still don't see the point and hopefully i don't see you at any of the rock concerts i attend either i'd rather be around sensible people


and lastly deg is definatly not music to be doing that kind of shit to.. yes when you hearit you can get energized jump around, rock out yadda yadda yadda...but it's definatly not music to be trampling, punching, beating up people too

Wow, did you people live under a rock when 'The Marrow of A Bone' came out or what? To say that album is not mosh music, I have to just....punch you in the ovaries. I don't mosh, but that fucking album was definitely mosh. And hrmmmmm...when they played Clever Sleazoid at my show...OH MY GOD! they had a mosh pit going on! :D! Guess what you say is null and void.


and if the 'crowds' bother you so much....next time stay home and watch the DVDs [like idolcrash said] or download the concerts off of this site. You guys can't handle it obviously.

@無限の花 ... (what a name O_o cant read it nor tip XD)
its a really bad point that some who wanted out can't!! Even at "very" cheap punk cons all people in the heat front helped others up or let them (to approximate to the band n.n"), it never happened to me O_O" however, I hope my upcoming Deg con will not like youre expieriences!  :-\

@Karasu:
Well I was on the first Deg con, and that was the Withers and Vulgar time, so no really mosh-pit songs XD and when they played saku one of my friends just faided to black (the heat! 50°C in the columbia hall XD) and I had no time to care about the music ;_;"

And yeah I hope MoaB album will attract more excited-to-trample-to-the-musc people  ;) Now Im in Berlin so I've to care about the ticket price "ONLY" YES dude! >_<"


one question: is there the word "pogo" in english too?!? XD

Quotethey're all preaching if you can't handle the pit get out but then when people were trying to leave they wouldn't let them out and were still acting like asshats

Usually people assume you want to stay in, it is common for people in a pit to be pushed to the edge of a pit and for the people not in it to push them back in. Usually, though, if people are seen down on the floor and possibly being trampled, they are helped up so that they don't get trampled. Maybe it is because you went to a concert with shitty bands, but I've yet to have a bad experience in the pit. I even helped some guy find his wedding band or somesuch once.

Quotepersonally i can handle that shit that's why i didn't leave the pit

Then what are you bitching about?

Quoteyes when you hearit you can get energized jump around, rock out yadda yadda yadda...but it's definatly not music to be trampling, punching, beating up people too

Moshing != brawling

i'm bitching about it because there are people who can't handle it and what i saw there wasn't right ...and i dont believe in just standing there watching smth bad happen just because it doesn't effect you... there was a girl right next to me who literally fainted and it was only me and some other guy screaming let her out let her out and instead of letting her out they all fucking pushed her and if it wasn't for the other guy holding her up she would've fallen and been trampled on by the people behind her all trying to take her spot or probabaly stand on her so they can get a better view (xD) ... tell me that's not messed up ...and like i said the other pits weren't bad and yes we were moshing but we were also respectful and helped people out but this one was just straight out bullshit

@karasu- there is totally heavier than MOAB xD it's definatly music you can feel but at the same time it's not brawling music ... plus at the shows they played what 4 MOAB songs? take out RNA ... and your basicllly left with the fatal believer (which is kind of but not really) , leaving 2 songs ASOM and clever slezoid which yea can be moshing music ... but guess what the mosh started when fricken emo bleed the dream came on and i know one thing bleed the dream is NOT mosh music ... so that's already where the stupidity begins

Quotethere was a girl right next to me who literally fainted and it was only me and some other guy screaming let her out let her out and instead of letting her out they all fucking pushed her and if it wasn't for the other guy holding her up she would've fallen and been trampled on by the people behind her all trying to take her spot or probabaly stand on her so they can get a better view (xD) ... tell me that's not messed up

It is messed up, but when you have tons of drooling half-retarded fans (what else would you expect at a Dir en Grey concert), that is to be expected. Luckily there are usually some normal people who help those who fall down so they don't get trampled by those who are too excited to notice what is happening under their feet (although this is common 'etiquette' in most pits, since people falling is inevitable).

Quote from: 無限の花 on February 25, 2007, 03:00:58 AM
fricken emo bleed the dream

Bleed the Dream isn't emo, sorry.

Oh... and in Tempe, people were moshing to The fucking Final.

So to say that you can't mosh to Dir en grey is fucking ridiculous. Also, I was right behind the pit near the soundboard and still saw Kyo perfectly. Hell, he even stared me down for a good 30 seconds.

Quote from: idolcrash on February 25, 2007, 03:32:07 AM

Quotethere was a girl right next to me who literally fainted and it was only me and some other guy screaming let her out let her out and instead of letting her out they all fucking pushed her and if it wasn't for the other guy holding her up she would've fallen and been trampled on by the people behind her all trying to take her spot or probabaly stand on her so they can get a better view (xD) ... tell me that's not messed up

It is messed up, but when you have tons of drooling half-retarded fans (what else would you expect at a Dir en Grey concert), that is to be expected. Luckily there are usually some normal people who help those who fall down so they don't get trampled by those who are too excited to notice what is happening under their feet (although this is common 'etiquette' in most pits, since people falling is inevitable).

okay well as long as we're agreeing on this part it's cool cuz that was my main peeve anyway

Quote from: beau99 on February 25, 2007, 06:09:48 AM

Quote from: 無限の花 on February 25, 2007, 03:00:58 AM
fricken emo bleed the dream

Bleed the Dream isn't emo, sorry.

Oh... and in Tempe, people were moshing to The fucking Final.

So to say that you can't mosh to Dir en grey is fucking ridiculous. Also, I was right behind the pit near the soundboard and still saw Kyo perfectly. Hell, he even stared me down for a good 30 seconds.

and omg they ARE SO emo >.< plus i don't even think the singer was actually singing at our show i swear it had to be lipsync ...maybe not but what he was saying was barely audible and it sounded whiny as hell ...that's all it sounded like whining ...so why the moshing started then w/e i still won't know

and i never said you can't mosh to dir en grey (when did i say this?) i said it's not moshing music (and it isn't) ...clearly it is possible seeing as at most of the shows it happened duh

and iono are you tall cuz that can help ya know =] i'm freaken short and in order for me to see i had to stand on the feet of some of the taller guys next to me ...then again i didn't have a choice either cuz we were packed up so tight ... hell we could barely even jump we were packed up so tight

if you mosh to The Final, you obviously have no sense at all to what their music is about.

"yeah lets push eachother around in celebration of teen suicide! WOOHOO!!!"

If it keeps those damn kids out of my yard I'm all for it

LMAO

Quote from: 無限の花 on February 25, 2007, 04:02:56 PM

Quote from: idolcrash on February 25, 2007, 03:32:07 AM

Quotethere was a girl right next to me who literally fainted and it was only me and some other guy screaming let her out let her out and instead of letting her out they all fucking pushed her and if it wasn't for the other guy holding her up she would've fallen and been trampled on by the people behind her all trying to take her spot or probabaly stand on her so they can get a better view (xD) ... tell me that's not messed up

It is messed up, but when you have tons of drooling half-retarded fans (what else would you expect at a Dir en Grey concert), that is to be expected. Luckily there are usually some normal people who help those who fall down so they don't get trampled by those who are too excited to notice what is happening under their feet (although this is common 'etiquette' in most pits, since people falling is inevitable).

okay well as long as we're agreeing on this part it's cool cuz that was my main peeve anyway

Quote from: beau99 on February 25, 2007, 06:09:48 AM

Quote from: 無限の花 on February 25, 2007, 03:00:58 AM
fricken emo bleed the dream

Bleed the Dream isn't emo, sorry.

Oh... and in Tempe, people were moshing to The fucking Final.

So to say that you can't mosh to Dir en grey is fucking ridiculous. Also, I was right behind the pit near the soundboard and still saw Kyo perfectly. Hell, he even stared me down for a good 30 seconds.

and omg they ARE SO emo >.< plus i don't even think the singer was actually singing at our show i swear it had to be lipsync ...maybe not but what he was saying was barely audible and it sounded whiny as hell ...that's all it sounded like whining ...so why the moshing started then w/e i still won't know

and i never said you can't mosh to dir en grey (when did i say this?) i said it's not moshing music (and it isn't) ...clearly it is possible seeing as at most of the shows it happened duh

and iono are you tall cuz that can help ya know =] i'm freaken short and in order for me to see i had to stand on the feet of some of the taller guys next to me ...then again i didn't have a choice either cuz we were packed up so tight ... hell we could barely even jump we were packed up so tight

1. You obviously don't know know what emo really is.
2. It IS moshing music.
3. No, I'm quite short.

well w/e i rather don't care anymore lol

Emo is the most retarded fucking thing to disgrace the planet Earth.

Quote from: idolcrash on February 27, 2007, 04:10:57 AM
Emo is the most retarded fucking thing to disgrace the planet Earth.

I think its just metal, but not metal XD

Only because the sexual frustration is there

ever noticed how FYE tends to make seeing Dir en Grey fucking stupid?

first at Family Values they charge 18 dollars for a single, and 30 dollars for Six Ugly.

and then at Inward Scream, they bribed people with 1 in 100 changes to meet the band, to buy the shitty american release of the cd with the fucking bland liner notes (all the cool artwork is gone, and not to mention the first pressing misprint with them)

fuck FYE with their shitty list price sales. good luck buying a cd that isnt a new release for less than 16 dollars.

.begin sarcasm
       

      Stop blaming a company that could give 2 shits who or what dir en grey is.  And Dir en Grey "seeming stupid"?  That's a clue that your brain might be forming a different opinion, you might want that checked if your a DEG fangirl/boi/trap. 
       If you want to intelligently critique companies, stop playing into their legal bullshit by referring to them as if they were actual entities/people/sentient beings.  When you understand that they are in fact NOT human beings (this is what their murky legal status defines them as, thus allowing them to get around all sorts of shit), then feel free to let one rip in name of protest, otherwise, put your diapers back on.  Also, if you actually went into an FYE, you'll see they are actually selling TMOAB for 13.00, 2.00 less than the pre-order, which is a little more reasonable than FYE is usually notorious for.  IF you want to blame anyone, go cry to the companies coordinating DEG's entry into America (or :gasp: the band themselves?  oh no that would be blasphemy, the thought of objecting to them is enough to cut oneself).  Y 
       
       Also, there's this thing called DOWNLOADING, so stop whining about prices and go to Soulseeks and bitch in the stupid fucking Japanese Music Rooms while raping files off of fangirls.  Otherwise, stop spending money on stupid bullshit, save up, and shut up. 


       Bleed The Dream is emo; they suck balls and they will get their ass ramming when the time comes.  It doesn't matter what emo USED to be, so unless you were actually apart of the harDCore movement back then, stop shitting yourself over a forgotten past that you weren't apart of and start listening to good bands.  On that note, Bad Brains [original line-up] is slated to release a new album in 2007. 

The Final is a misunderstood song; most are in denial that the song is ironically cherished by those the song refers to: bitchy gawthmo who partake in teen suicide because they finally realized DEG doesn't care about them, or know that they exist, IE most DEG fans: i put most there so that whoever applies and is reading this has no real excuse to come bitch to me about Ann Rice or getting laid or whatever.



oh and to all those who havent' listened to TMOAB: snape kills dumbeldore. 

(http://pages.prodigy.net/mike_p_smith/hbpimages/snape.jpg)

.end sarcasm

Enjoy.   

wow you took my annoyance and cried a fucking river out of it. its the internet, chill out. all i was saying in short is that FYE sucks balls. oh yeah and Dir en Grey "seeming stupid" was your dumb ass misreading something. were you too caught up in your little hissy fit?  ;D

jeez, your whole time on this board has just been Bitch and Complain Theatre 3000.

i did label it "sarcasm", so I wasn't very serious about the entire post  :o.   I was going to edit my post, since it was a bit of stretch even so far as rants go, but I figured people would "get it".   It seems people still take things too seriously here.  Plus, it's not like others don't bitch about things not being japanese, visual-kei or whatever.  I was parodying the notion of replying to something even slightly askew with a rant blowing things out of proportion.    If i had a dart board, I just randomly replied to wherever the dart landed.   

It all seems so flaccid if I have to explain it  :(.  Don't take it personally; if the very concept of The Flame Pit wasn't  a naive and childish method of protecting those who still wear training wheels on their Internets,  then I would take it there, honest.   ;) 


On that note, I do actually agree with you on the American release being pretty shitty overall (the limited edition is better but it hardly makes up for what the most part is a step down from withering and could've done without 2 tracks, repetition of hatred and the deeper vileness,  and the re-recording of the singles).  Given enough time, I might actually go buy the US version of withering for the dvd (it varies from 10.00 to 15.00 across 3 FYE stories around here); hopefully the next album is better.     

QuoteOn that note, Bad Brains [original line-up] is slated to release a new album in 2007.

Thank Jesus

indeed

Quote from: idolcrash on March 06, 2007, 08:10:55 PM

QuoteOn that note, Bad Brains [original line-up] is slated to release a new album in 2007.

Thank Jesus

dont get me wrong, i dig a lot of the 80s hardcore (i do enjoy my Black Flag and Minor Threat) but i never liked Bad Brains. besides.. thats not jrock. this isnt the place for this!  :P

bad brains would shit all over gazette.  :P

im sry, THE gazette.

::) 

The Youth Are Getting Restless !

corn flakes~!

[/random nonesense]

Maybe you should listen to bad brains. It's an album title. Geez.

you mean me o.O oh i wasn't saying anything ...i was just bored and wanted to scream Corn Flakes ...plus i'm kind of hungry... frosted flakes are alot better though ...more sugar but i probabaly don't need more sugar ....hmmm... what was this thread about again?

[/end sugar enduced nonesense]

Quote from: 無限の花 on March 13, 2007, 03:32:58 PM
you mean me o.O oh i wasn't saying anything ...i was just bored and wanted to scream Corn Flakes ...plus i'm kind of hungry... frosted flakes are alot better though ...more sugar but i probabaly don't need more sugar ....hmmm... what was this thread about again?

[/end sugar enduced nonesense]

It's just another silly DeG thread. I could go for some food too. I didn't mean to sound like a ass. DX sorry about that.

lol it's okay don't worry about it xD

ah yes of course silly me ... this is how deg threads seem to always go though ;3

(by the way i do want to listen to this bad brains (why do i feel as though i should be shot for not knowing who they are >_>)

Quote from: beau99 on February 25, 2007, 06:09:48 AM

Quote from: 無限の花 on February 25, 2007, 03:00:58 AM
fricken emo bleed the dream

Bleed the Dream isn't emo, sorry.

Oh... and in Tempe, people were moshing to The fucking Final.

So to say that you can't mosh to Dir en grey is fucking ridiculous. Also, I was right behind the pit near the soundboard and still saw Kyo perfectly. Hell, he even stared me down for a good 30 seconds.

*screams in agony*

i missed that concert goddamn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if deathgaze comes to the states to tour..... i'm there, where ever, when ever.........

Why is it that I liked Bleed the Dream more than Diru?

Quote from: Vessicator on April 16, 2007, 05:42:51 AM
Why is it that I liked Bleed the Dream more than Diru?

thats what my girlfriend said. she was going to see dir en grey (well, she doesnt like them as much as i do, so i was dragging her along and she kindof wanted to see them), and she ended up only talking about Bleed the Dream. i was like "uhh they played for a half hour vs Diru's 2 hours.... and THEY were the ones who stood out??". oh well, their new cd is damn kickass, and all the guys in the band are wicked nice.

Quote from: spider13man on April 16, 2007, 05:39:37 AM

Quote from: beau99 on February 25, 2007, 06:09:48 AM

Quote from: 無限の花 on February 25, 2007, 03:00:58 AM
fricken emo bleed the dream

Bleed the Dream isn't emo, sorry.

Oh... and in Tempe, people were moshing to The fucking Final.

So to say that you can't mosh to Dir en grey is fucking ridiculous. Also, I was right behind the pit near the soundboard and still saw Kyo perfectly. Hell, he even stared me down for a good 30 seconds.

*screams in agony*

i missed that concert goddamn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if deathgaze comes to the states to tour..... i'm there, where ever, when ever.........

Deathgaze would actually be worth seeing. Too bad I'm not all about the new lead.

Quote from: ARCH☆ゾンビ on April 16, 2007, 01:25:24 PM

Quote from: spider13man on April 16, 2007, 05:39:37 AM

Quote from: beau99 on February 25, 2007, 06:09:48 AM

Quote from: 無限の花 on February 25, 2007, 03:00:58 AM
fricken emo bleed the dream

Bleed the Dream isn't emo, sorry.

Oh... and in Tempe, people were moshing to The fucking Final.

So to say that you can't mosh to Dir en grey is fucking ridiculous. Also, I was right behind the pit near the soundboard and still saw Kyo perfectly. Hell, he even stared me down for a good 30 seconds.

*screams in agony*

i missed that concert goddamn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if deathgaze comes to the states to tour..... i'm there, where ever, when ever.........

Deathgaze would actually be worth seeing. Too bad I'm not all about the new lead.

what........................... they got rid of the original singer......... the one with the awesome opera quality voice?
fuckers........................

Quote from: spider13man on April 18, 2007, 07:41:51 AM

Quote from: ARCH☆ゾンビ on April 16, 2007, 01:25:24 PM

Quote from: spider13man on April 16, 2007, 05:39:37 AM

Quote from: beau99 on February 25, 2007, 06:09:48 AM

Quote from: 無限の花 on February 25, 2007, 03:00:58 AM
fricken emo bleed the dream

Bleed the Dream isn't emo, sorry.

Oh... and in Tempe, people were moshing to The fucking Final.

So to say that you can't mosh to Dir en grey is fucking ridiculous. Also, I was right behind the pit near the soundboard and still saw Kyo perfectly. Hell, he even stared me down for a good 30 seconds.

Yeah , but they have done it before.

*screams in agony*

i missed that concert goddamn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if deathgaze comes to the states to tour..... i'm there, where ever, when ever.........

Deathgaze would actually be worth seeing. Too bad I'm not all about the new lead.

what........................... they got rid of the original singer......... the one with the awesome opera quality voice?
fuckers........................

Yeah  , Hazuki left awhile ago.

ヴォーカル    宗    ソウ     4月08日O型     →Be≒Luna→デスゲイズ
関係者
絶叫    葉月    ハヅキ    →KUSSE→Berry(葉月)→ベリィ→デスゲイズ→lynch.

Quote from: ARCH☆ゾンビ on April 18, 2007, 04:44:51 PM

Quote from: spider13man on April 18, 2007, 07:41:51 AM

Quote from: ARCH☆ゾンビ on April 16, 2007, 01:25:24 PM

Quote from: spider13man on April 16, 2007, 05:39:37 AM

Quote from: beau99 on February 25, 2007, 06:09:48 AM

Quote from: 無限の花 on February 25, 2007, 03:00:58 AM
fricken emo bleed the dream

Bleed the Dream isn't emo, sorry.

Oh... and in Tempe, people were moshing to The fucking Final.

So to say that you can't mosh to Dir en grey is fucking ridiculous. Also, I was right behind the pit near the soundboard and still saw Kyo perfectly. Hell, he even stared me down for a good 30 seconds.

Yeah , but they have done it before.

*screams in agony*

i missed that concert goddamn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if deathgaze comes to the states to tour..... i'm there, where ever, when ever.........

Deathgaze would actually be worth seeing. Too bad I'm not all about the new lead.

what........................... they got rid of the original singer......... the one with the awesome opera quality voice?
fuckers........................

Yeah  , Hazuki left awhile ago.

ヴォーカル    宗    ソウ     4月08日O型     →Be≒Luna→デスゲイズ
関係者
絶叫    葉月    ハヅキ    →KUSSE→Berry(葉月)→ベリィ→デスゲイズ→lynch.

damn it....... what's the new guy sound like?  :'(

on Diru's website they have pics from the Inward Scream tour in the US. im in one of the pictures for sure, but you cant see anything since the lights are on stage and the crowd is dark. (in case you were wondering its the last picture in the Boston show minigallery)