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Title: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: ♪└|∵|┐♪└|∵|┘♪┌|∵|┘♪ on March 04, 2008, 01:02:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq-Yho4IBd4

So, do you guys consider X Japan some "super extra holy BEST EVAAR band" that no one should laugh at or just another band (even though they were really influencial)?


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Yumeko on March 04, 2008, 01:15:45 AM
They're not my favorite band; but I agree they were majorly influencial.  that link was pretty funny ^_^  LOL at the second Toshi's hair.  But the third guy sounded just like him.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Do As Eternity 6 on March 04, 2008, 03:54:38 AM
HOLY SHIT the second one was GOLD man i died laughing xD

to be honest i think they are overrated by most people even though sure they were very influential. I actually don't even really like X-japan that much and i always get scared to even say that around a bunch of other J-rock fans because it's like some kind of crazy taboo or form of blasphemy. I don't belittle the fact they were influential but i wish people would stop putting them on some kind of godly level D:


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: 琴乃 on March 04, 2008, 08:55:19 PM
Yeah, and also seems like not liking them is such a crime.

I think they are overrated as hell. Of course they were influential, I would not deny that fact, but in musical terms, they weren't something spectacular. Just some kind of speed/power metal turned into incredible long soppy ballads in their latests years.

And I really hate the hide fandom. Not because of him, but the really annoying fans. C'mon, all those who claim themselves as hide fans were like 6 when he died...


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: signal to noise on March 04, 2008, 10:04:51 PM
i still havent listened to much music by this band. they havent been able to really grab my interest like Luna Sea or Buck-Tick has. but hey, I.V. is a good song.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on March 04, 2008, 11:38:08 PM
The Only two X songs I deal with anymore are Scar and Endless Rain. I used to love them back in the day when i had a bunch of vhs live shows. Used to sit around and watch Seikima , X , B-T and for some odd reason La Mule shows.

I like X live , but not studio ( even though Dhalia isn't bad ) . They are very overrated , still they are a part of history. They , for me , are right up there with Hide. I'm not sure why people would die over them to this day.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: xbiinex on March 04, 2008, 11:49:42 PM
I do like some of their songs, but overall I always felt that musically-wise they just sounded like an average 80's hair metal band. Irrespective of their influence I never understood why many jrock fans adore them so much. And Toshi's voice sounds rather mediocre to me.

Same goes for hide's solo stuff. He may have been a g.o.o.d guitarist and g.o.o.d-looking, but most of his songs are plain boring, and he wasn't a memorable singer either.

Overrated??  Hell, yeah!!


Title: shit
Post by: maiku on April 01, 2008, 11:30:00 AM
They're shit.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: loirylolo on April 02, 2008, 12:26:27 AM
They were huge in Japan but they were and are still really overrated. Sure they had some very good songs (but also some bad ones XD) and were great on stage but they were your average metal band of that time. I don't even think they've been influencial music wise...


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: 【オ】 on April 02, 2008, 08:26:39 AM
X was good, X Japan sucks.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on April 02, 2008, 09:34:52 AM
X Japan was awesome and you guys are all fags. "Oh i'll look so cool to say that one of the most influential japanese bands ever is overrated."


Title: faget.
Post by: maiku on April 02, 2008, 11:06:35 AM
X Japan was awesome and you guys are all fags. "Oh i'll look so cool to say that one of the most influential japanese bands ever is overrated."

Try harder.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: signal to noise on April 02, 2008, 09:29:01 PM
X Japan was awesome and you guys are all fags. "Oh i'll look so cool to say that one of the most influential japanese bands ever is overrated."

even though i dont know X Japan that well, i have to agree with this. chances are if you're on this forum, most of your favorite bands exist because of X Japan. i hate how its the fucking fad to hate the biggest bands. fuckin losers. its like the same thing as people hating U2 because they still make platinum albums and Bono does all this world awareness shit, and somehow they are douches?


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: ♪└|∵|┐♪└|∵|┘♪┌|∵|┘♪ on April 02, 2008, 10:53:06 PM
I like X Japan.

Still, I DO think they're overrated.

So I couldn't care less about the fact you think this is some kind of attention whoring thread just to be badass


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: 非難GO-GO > バクチク on April 03, 2008, 04:50:17 AM
There is a difference between overrated and hate I think Signal. I like X , I find myself listening to them once in a blue moon now , but I think my days of liking them alot are gone. I've moved on which I seem to do with music and find new stuff. I might listen to them tommorow or whatever. I think looking back , and thinking about other bands that were out at the time , or other groups that were equally good , X wasn't all that and a bag of chips.

I'm suprised people don't think B-T is overrated. I know thier last album didn't go over too well with alot of people , I know alot of reviews state that B-T is running out of material and everything else you can think of. I still love B-T to death , I've sunk so much money into owning about 90% of thier cds , dvds , band merch etc.... I just don't listen to them as much anymore , not like I used to.

I don't like X studio wise , aside a few songs. I did like thier sound live though , they project well ( like rammstien and Funker Vogt ). Thier live sound was amazing in my opinion. People just move on I think , that's probaly why alot of people think they are overrated. Thier era is over , not alot of people are going to go back and listen to older music.


As for the U2 thing , I don't think they are overrated , I just don't like them sound wise. I'm sure the are excellent musicians and people ( I give props to anyone willing to help out the world community in any way ) , but sound wise they are not my cup of tea. Now calling a band douches for no reason , that's kinda retarded , but people will do that.

Everyband that makes it and people know about it will influence other bands , so they will become a father figure to new bands , so X may be legendary in that respect but they hayday of X is over and people are going to think like that.


Title: g
Post by: Culo on April 10, 2008, 05:30:01 PM
X JAPEN ARE good


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: nekki_chibi on April 11, 2008, 05:55:20 AM
X Yapon


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Yumeko on April 11, 2008, 03:06:56 PM
^ I agree.  I appreciate X but I don't think they were all that either.  I've always been more of a Buck-Tick fan.  I thought their last album was good ^_^ but I think the album before it was better; more my cup of tea anyways.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: 埒々 on April 11, 2008, 11:49:09 PM
Every musician/band is overrated.

Except the really sucky ones everybody hates.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: ♪└|∵|┐♪└|∵|┘♪┌|∵|┘♪ on April 12, 2008, 03:01:52 AM
Nonsense.

There are lots of under appreciated bands


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Culo on April 12, 2008, 03:43:41 AM
all jrock bands except X Japen, Dir en gray, Gazzutte, An Cafi, Mee yah bee, and a few others SUCK. these are the only good ones oh and BERTTECK? yeah well I never hheard that one but I'll say it's good because it seems all the jrock veterans who started listening to this jpop genre since 2005 says they're legendary so ok I''ll say they're good.

AND DONT FORGET MALICE MANZER, VAINILLA IS THE BETTER SONG i saw BLOOD performing it live although i dont like them much now because too popular over the world plus they're fugly and not really popular enough lel!

Actually i'm a rebel and like unknown artists like X jepan... I don't know i'll listen to the spice girls new CD rocks!


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: ♪└|∵|┐♪└|∵|┘♪┌|∵|┘♪ on April 12, 2008, 04:34:41 AM
all jrock bands except X Japen, Dir en gray, Gazzutte, An Cafi, Mee yah bee, and a few others SUCK. these are the only good ones oh and BERTTECK? yeah well I never hheard that one but I'll say it's good because it seems all the jrock veterans who started listening to this jpop genre since 2005 says they're legendary so ok I''ll say they're good.

AND DONT FORGET MALICE MANZER, VAINILLA IS THE BETTER SONG i saw BLOOD performing it live although i dont like them much now because too popular over the world plus they're fugly and not really popular enough lel!

Actually i'm a rebel and like unknown artists like X jepan... I don't know i'll listen to the spice girls new CD rocks!

Sometimes I really wonder what kind of drugs do you smoke


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: nekki_chibi on April 12, 2008, 05:51:19 AM
all jrock bands except X Japen, Dir en gray, Gazzutte, An Cafi, Mee yah bee, and a few others SUCK. these are the only good ones oh and BERTTECK? yeah well I never hheard that one but I'll say it's good because it seems all the jrock veterans who started listening to this jpop genre since 2005 says they're legendary so ok I''ll say they're good.

AND DONT FORGET MALICE MANZER, VAINILLA IS THE BETTER SONG i saw BLOOD performing it live although i dont like them much now because too popular over the world plus they're fugly and not really popular enough lel!

Actually i'm a rebel and like unknown artists like X jepan... I don't know i'll listen to the spice girls new CD rocks!
wonderfully boring post.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: 凸(。☉౪ ⊙。)▁▇▀▀▀~~~卍 on April 12, 2008, 10:24:57 AM
lol, harsh butt true


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Culo on April 12, 2008, 07:30:24 PM
If I can make you lose your time reading my boring posts then my mission is accomplished! (http://www.elchat.com/elchat.jpg)

Quote
Sometimes I really wonder what kind of drugs do you smoke

check this site: http://marijuanacannabis.com/

it's like ordering to japanese CD stores but much funnier


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on April 13, 2008, 12:30:19 AM
You got no friends to buy from Naja?


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Culo on April 13, 2008, 01:52:54 AM
No all my friends are obsessed jrawck fangirls LEL! they think marijuana is not aristocrat enough :( nor cute enough.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Kyο on April 17, 2008, 04:58:12 AM
nor rori enough.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: MR. Potato on April 20, 2008, 12:33:24 AM
Link dead mf!


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Jenova on April 24, 2008, 09:15:31 AM
I think X-Japan is highly overrated.  I thought the vocalist's voice was awful DX


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Culo on April 26, 2008, 02:03:57 AM
wat, he's a good vocalist, and you have miyavi in your avetar who can't sing shit without sounding like a downs syndrome pussy


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on April 26, 2008, 02:49:20 AM
Toshi's voice is beautiful.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: nekki_chibi on April 26, 2008, 06:15:05 AM
Toshi's voice is beautiful.
Like a goat in the morning misty field.

OUCH
I thought it was a thread about Gackt


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on April 27, 2008, 01:29:54 AM
Oh are we talking about Gackt now?


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: nekki_chibi on April 27, 2008, 04:05:11 AM
Why not
I think he's around the same age as yoshiki now


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: MY BABY DADDAY P-GWIDDLES on April 27, 2008, 05:37:57 AM
Gackt is a vampire so he could be like 200 years old and we wouldn't know


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Culo on April 28, 2008, 01:29:39 AM
since when stupid media whores are vampires?

well i dont care anyway vampires are overrated with all that ane rice shit, gay stuff


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: zenarcade on April 29, 2008, 11:07:49 PM
Well I think that, like any influencial band, they are overrated. For example, people attribute all of 90's music in America to Nirvana. Nirvana was good, yes, but they are definitely not godly.

Though in this case, X Japan does have SOME merit to the claims of fangirls. Art of Life, anyone?


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: Jenova on April 30, 2008, 07:57:53 AM
wat, he's a good vocalist, and you have miyavi in your avetar who can't sing shit without sounding like a downs syndrome pussy

That's not Miyavi.  I hate Miyavi.   I don't remember who that is, actually.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: 1010~ten-ten~ on May 17, 2008, 01:03:00 PM
I think X japan suck.
Don't know know how they could have influenced anyone, really.
IMO, people back in THE GOOD OLD DAYS had terrible taste of music.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: signal to noise on May 17, 2008, 06:26:17 PM
i never even realized we were doing this vocalist run down. lets go through classic jrock vocalists now and scale them...

Sakurai > Ryuichi > Gackt > Toshi > Miyavi?!

and that is that.


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: nekki_chibi on May 17, 2008, 07:58:53 PM
I think X japan suck.
Don't know know how they could have influenced anyone, really.
IMO, people back in THE GOOD OLD DAYS had terrible taste of music.
americans and japanese had
british didn't )


Title: Re: X Japan, overrated?
Post by: odoroboujohn on February 17, 2009, 04:07:18 AM
X is great and exactly where they wanted to be, Have you seen any X sheet music!? The piano pages look like they were tossed in a kaliedoscope and set in crazy time frames. But..., there's always time for parodies.