So in the spring they are going major and have been signed to Smile records or what entertainment or whatever it's called. The other bands on that label are all poppy groups sort of. That worries me; but I don't think D would change their style. I just hope they don't get too formulated. But my friend reminded me that D is pretty classy for a VK band; so I'm sure it'll be fine. I'm happy for them tho. I've been a fan since before or just around their first album came out; so it's nice to have seen the band's growth.
http://www.smile-co.co.jp/ (http://www.smile-co.co.jp/)
I think they'll get worse, but who knows.
Their recent PVs for the album already indicated change of style towards more casual looks, and now I'm almost sure their label will affect sound and visuals too.
Well I think the last two music videos were simple on purpose to help promote the album. I actually really love the new album and as long as their sound doesn't stray too much; then I'll be happy.
lmao i can't wait for all the ...ZOMG D SUCKS NOW too start XD it's inevitable.
Ne way yea I'm happy for them. To me they should've been major awhile ago ^_^
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on December 22, 2007, 11:15:05 PM
lmao i can't wait for all the ...ZOMG D SUCKS NOW too start XD it's inevitable.
Well you have to admit, some bands that go major do get their creativity choked.
well there are also indie bands that just go bad over time. Then there are bands that suck straight out the gate. Imo it really doesn't matter if a band goes major or not. A lot of hate is unwarranted. Most types of change gain some kind of reaction like that no matter the circumstance. You really can't win D: Sure some bands perhaps but for some people they hurl insults just at the sight of change or a band going major even though like i said it's mostly unwarranted. Maybeit makes them feel special...i don't know. meh good music is all relative to the person whose listening so what someone would call a bands "creativity being choked" someone else would call it a band "trying something different". There's no real right or wrong i guess.
Quote from: Do As Eternity 6 on December 23, 2007, 12:22:36 AM
meh good music is all relative to the person whose listening so what someone would call a bands "creativity being choked" someone else would call it a band "trying something different". There's no real right or wrong i guess.
well said. I still look forward to what they will release in the future. I'm sure they'll be under a lot of pressure now with their first release as a major band.
Hmm , see what I miss when I neglect J music. I can't say they will get worse , might get better for all we know.
Well as far as I have seen most of bands that go major, change a LOT , but that is not really bad, I just wouldnt like to see Asagi wearing backstreet boys clothes or singing hiphop which i doubt will happen... so all that is left is to wait and see what happens. ~_~
As long as Asagi doesn't do any solo work im fine ... Corniv... watever was really bad and the video was corny.
Quote from: hirose on January 04, 2008, 03:40:48 AM
I just wouldnt like to see Asagi wearing backstreet boys clothes or singing hiphop which i doubt will happen...
I agree ;D
Quote from: o x i d e on January 04, 2008, 11:16:15 AM
Quote from: hirose on January 04, 2008, 03:40:48 AM
I just wouldnt like to see Asagi wearing backstreet boys clothes or singing hiphop which i doubt will happen...
I agree ;D
I just had an ammusing image of asagi signing D away to Jimusho Entertainment.
Quote from: ShyGuySimon on January 04, 2008, 07:42:50 AM
As long as Asagi doesn't do any solo work im fine ... Corniv... watever was really bad and the video was corny.
I really liked Corvinus. The video wasn't the best; but Asagi writes all the lyrics and music for most of D's songs; I don't see how Corvinus was affected by Asagi being solo or not aside from the fact he wasn't writing for D.
'bout damn time. D is one of the most deserving indies bands out there. Hopefully now they can get more attention.
Maybe they'll tour overseas now. Any idea what label they are going on?
Quote from: 18:29 on January 04, 2008, 01:19:07 PM
Quote from: o x i d e on January 04, 2008, 11:16:15 AM
Quote from: hirose on January 04, 2008, 03:40:48 AM
I just wouldnt like to see Asagi wearing backstreet boys clothes or singing hiphop which i doubt will happen...
I agree ;D
I just had an ammusing image of asagi signing D away to Jimusho Entertainment.
ok now that was creepy
Quote from: Modulate God on January 04, 2008, 04:17:46 PM
'bout damn time. D is one of the most deserving indies bands out there. Hopefully now they can get more attention.
trouble is will they change because they're not indies anymore? I hate to think that bands change because they become major but Kagrra(,) are a perfect example. If you look at from Oukaranman (2003) to now, their music's lost most of what I thought they kinda began as CROW/Kagrra. I kinda hope D don't change, 'cos for me it'll become a bit more difficult supporting them if they start changing and I don't like the change. If it's a positive thing tho, i'm all for it. Plus either way i'll end up forking out for their stuff no matter what :P (as I still do with Kagrra, lol)
D going major, bad news to me u.u
Most of the time when a VK band goes major, their music gets worse.
Indies bands will always be the best to me because they express what they really want to.
Quote from: seiryuu on January 10, 2008, 10:31:32 PM
D going major, bad news to me u.u
Most of the time when a VK band goes major, their music gets worse.
Indies bands will always be the best to me because they express what they really want to.
Or they just play what they know will sell and get them fans, and then once they go major and get big they start playing what they actually WANT to.
See: Dir en grey.
Quote from: wonderword on January 11, 2008, 11:34:45 AM
Or they just play what they know will sell and get them fans, and then once they go major and get big they start playing what they actually WANT to.
See: Dir en grey.
Major labels don't care about what band wants to play, they more care about fitting bands sound into current market
See: Mucc, Miyavi, Duel Jewel as very sad examples, and D'espairs ray (road to marilyn manson), gazette (with r'n'b mixed to alternative rock) and certainly, recent diru album - it's well produced, but it is very influenced.
^+1 karma
You can't really compare the japanese music industry to the american one and start complaining about sellouts, mainstream and such.
I can't really see how a independent and new band, trying to spread their music and earn a loyal fanbase, experiments a lot with their music, caring only with what they want to do instead of what others want them to.
Proof of that is how people like to hate bands who drops visual or try new things than the regular v-kei sound. And that's when the whole "sellout" discussion cames to surface.
This makes me wonder who is really free: major bands prisioners of the labels or indie bands prisioners of the fans.
^ good point Shogu.
Personally; if people want to look at major artists in general; I would say major artists get to do more of what they want because they've already established a strong and loyal fanbase and so the fans aren't really going to drop them if they put out an experimental album that sucks.
Aside from that, I heard Ayabie is going major too.
Also, Gazette reverted back to indies status almost six months ago after the release of Stacked Rubbish, so I think they won't follow that R'n'B hard rock style anymore.
^ they could've switched because they didn't like their label but anywho, the rap was only in like two songs; so I don't know why people freak out about it. I actually thought their intro track to stacked rubbish was great.
Quote from: shogu on January 11, 2008, 11:50:13 PM
You can't really compare the japanese music industry to the american one and start complaining about sellouts, mainstream and such.
as far as I know, Japanese music industry is second after american in terms of size; so why should it be different? Market laws work equally everywhere. btw, most of jpop, released everyday, is totally uninspired shit but - number of fans could beat the same of, say, Gackt's.
Quote from: shogu on January 11, 2008, 11:50:13 PM
This makes me wonder who is really free: major bands prisioners of the labels or indie bands prisioners of the fans.
No one is really, but for major bands, their management is dependent of marketing, promotion, distribution, organization and production systems in _much_ greater degree, than indie bands'. That's why they can not afford a luxury to make a fault with band's style and bands commercial success within it's potential auditory (that is no longer decided by band itself - label takes it). That's why, the band will be allowed to experiment only until it fits current trends or creates new, potentially successull, or it won't be allowed to do anything experimental at all.
When band goes major, it's auditory most probably changes. For example, Kaggra and lots of other, let's say, good major bands, only developed a new, n00b friendly visual image; 12012 and lots of, say, shitty bands, changed completely, leaving their old auditory off the boat.
Quote from: 埒々 on January 12, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
Aside from that, I heard Ayabie is going major too.
it's true, their new label is http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/music/ (...speaking of mainstream, ahem)
Quote from: 埒々 on January 12, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
Also, Gazette reverted back to indies status almost six months ago after the release of Stacked Rubbish, so I think they won't follow that R'n'B hard rock style anymore.
Source, please?.. I heard the same about Kaggra with the only difference - PS Company belongs (as it was said) to King Records, so, literally, the bands are in the same hands as before.
Quote from: 埒々 on January 12, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
Also, Gazette reverted back to indies status almost six months ago after the release of Stacked Rubbish, so I think they won't follow that R'n'B hard rock style anymore.
Hopefully they won't follow it anymore..
Art drawn by vomit made me want to get out my do-rag and Phat Farm shoes, holla.
Quote from: nekki_chibi on January 12, 2008, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: 埒々 on January 12, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
Also, Gazette reverted back to indies status almost six months ago after the release of Stacked Rubbish, so I think they won't follow that R'n'B hard rock style anymore.
Source, please?.. I heard the same about Kaggra with the only difference - PS Company belongs (as it was said) to King Records, so, literally, the bands are in the same hands as before.
VKDB lists them as "indies". (http://www.vkdb.jp/the+GazettE.html)
And they're a pretty reliable source.
Thank you ;)
Shitty VK bands can't go major, what the fuck are you on?
^nightmare is sucks now...==
should return to minor vk bands
Quote from: Alice the Sister on January 16, 2008, 07:11:50 AM
Shitty VK bands can't go major, what the fuck are you on?
l'arc en ciel did it
what can be more shitty?
^ The Gazette,
they were so shit they made it to major...then were demoted back down to indie again.
they failed badly.
true story.
Actually the band itself decided to go indies again to have more freedom in writing music.
ohhh thats good,
stacked rubbish was shit
yeah-yeah
their matina singles were just the best
pscompany and king recs RUINED THIS BAND((((((9999999999
btw who cares about their
QuoteMUSIK?
Quote from: nekki_chibi on January 16, 2008, 10:24:27 AM
Quote from: Alice the Sister on January 16, 2008, 07:11:50 AM
Shitty VK bands can't go major, what the fuck are you on?
l'arc en ciel did it
what can be more shitty?
When RARUKU EN SHIT-ERRRU became major they stopped being a shitty vk band and started being a shitty pop-rock anime-theme-song blowjob gimmick band with a few good songs every now and then.
I haven't heard their old stuff, or much of their new stuff except whatever they played at that concert I went to in 2005. o.o
They have their moments, I'm not completely knocking on them.
I'm happy too and I've been a fan for a long time, gotta love Asagi's voice :)
I'm sure they'll be fine, I'm rooting for them^^
Quote from: 埒々 on January 16, 2008, 02:57:52 PM
Actually the band itself decided to go indies again to have more freedom in writing music.
I didn't know that.
the band's name changed to D feat. Asagi [?]
I saw it @ FOOL'S MATE or SHOXX I think...
What, really?
Omg, ASAGI really loves to take the role of the egocentrical vibrato prick I guess. In one year, it'll be his solo project. xD
Asagi and the D's
lol amirite
Quote from: 【ｵ】 on February 09, 2008, 07:41:01 AM
the band's name changed to D feat. Asagi [?]
I saw it @ FOOL'S MATE or SHOXX I think...
I have that issue. It was a two page spread featuring Asagi. It said 'D' and then under it feat. Asagi as in the magazine was 'featuring' him. But other magazines have featured just Ruiza. So it's not a big deal.
Quote from: 凸(｡☉౪ ⊙｡)▁▇▀▀▀～～～卍 on January 16, 2008, 01:36:40 PM
^ The Gazette,
they were so shit they made it to major...then were demoted back down to indie again.
they failed badly.
true story.
Gazette headlines venues like the budokan, and has done soundtracks for major asian films. YOU and your post have "failed badly", as usual
My prediction - look for toned-down visual and standard-issue jrocker haircuts. Look at Hiroki...he's been dying to ditch the visual since day one. He looks about as comfortable as a wet dog in their photos. The music will still be worth buying.
Quote from: toneberry on February 18, 2008, 09:51:57 PM
Quote from: 凸(｡☉౪ ⊙｡)▁▇▀▀▀～～～卍 on January 16, 2008, 01:36:40 PM
^ The Gazette,
they were so shit they made it to major...then were demoted back down to indie again.
they failed badly.
true story.
Gazette headlines venues like the budokan, and has done soundtracks for major asian films. YOU and your post have "failed badly", as usual
doesnt mean their new stuff didnt suck, cus it did. alot of people thought that also. and they WERE better when they were indie, which is why they went back to indie. DUH.
and nice attempt at retaliation after looking like a complete twat from that crossgate thread and vidoll shutdown requset thread.
and WOW, im surprised, you actually posted something that wasnt a request, AS USUAL
go fucking buy your own stuff for a change.
Quote from: toneberry on February 18, 2008, 10:16:10 PM
My prediction - look for toned-down visual and standard-issue jrocker haircuts. Look at Hiroki...he's been dying to ditch the visual since day one. He looks about as comfortable as a wet dog in their photos. The music will still be worth buying.
I don't agree with that. I've seen enough pictures of them to tell he's okay with it. Hide-zou would be the one I would say isn't as comfortable with it.
I'm sure D will look casual (toned-down, if you'd like it)
just look at Kaya's metamorphosis, lol